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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Good discussion and no doubt that If I
were going to fly a contest with Jason or someone of that caliber…I’d
be there and would promote it heavily. I can sure sympathize with their
contest demands though…. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Not meaning to change the subject,
assuming it is still growing pattern…. Has anyone got any stats on
the effectivity of the pattern primers? I know of some new guys who’ve
come into it this way. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mike Hester<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 28, 2006
9:47 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] OK
it's time to stir things up. Where's thebeef?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I like the idea of "qualifying" by flying at least
3 contests prior to the team trials. Didn't we used to do this? However, as has
been stated, there are other factors.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Somebody mentioned Jason, he is an exception. But has been
for years. he not only competes locally, but is also active on the lists and
forums, very helpful, usually not arguementative, and you don't get the feeling
that his comments are tainted by sponsorship. Also, he's an absolute riot to be
around at contests. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Now here's one huge problem, let's take right now for
instance. Take any local pattern contest, what's the prize for 1st place?
Usually a piece of wood and a "you da man!" What's the top prize for
the Don Lowe masters? A pretty good paycheck. So, other things may take
priority.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Keep in mind these guys are playing a different game than
most of us. There's money involved, and they're playing for keeps. Anywhere
there's competition, there's going to be money involved. It's just a question
of degree.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>On the sponsorship stickers....c'mon man, I had stickers on
my plane when I wasn't sponsored. I liked the idea of advertising and
supporting a company/product I really liked, or had treated me exceptionally
well. The only issue I've ever had with sponsorships is that in certain cases,
you have to make sure the sponsored person is telling you the WHOLE truth, and
giving the right advise to the right person. An FAI pilot telling a sportsman
guy how to equip and set up his plane is cool at first glance, but if the
sportsman guy flies the exact same set up at the FAI guy, he may be in way over
his head. The sequences require different things. In FAI performance is the #1
consideration, in sportsman reliability is much more important.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Just adding some stirring, this one ain't boiling yet =)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>-Mike</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com" title="mups1953@yahoo.com">mike mueller</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Thursday,
September 28, 2006 9:03 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [NSRCA-discussion]
OK it's time to stir things up. Where's the beef?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> I have an observation that I've made that disturbes me. I don't
think that we are getting enough of the top notch or team worthy flyers
participating on a local level. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> I think that in the future the team trials need to be revamped so
that a flyer wanting to make the team would be required to fly in at least 3 to
5 local contests per year.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Here's why I think this is important. We need the top names in
our sport to be part of the sport from a leadership standpoint. Imagine a QQ
showing up to fly against Andrew at a local contest. It would be much more
exciting to watch and it would therefore promote more interest. If we continue
on the path we are going interest in pattern will continue to slide.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> In the 70's when the team selection was known as the Masters you
had to fly your way into the contest by accumulating points on the local level.
It was exciting. Were totally missing the boat with our present system.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> So here's the deal. Support the real pattern flyers who make the
effort to support us and we will all be better off. Oh and for what it's worth
I think we would be better off all around if we didn't allow any stickers or
blatant advertising of any products in our sport. Let's get back to the flyers
who do it on there own without all the sponsorships.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> All this is just what I've seen in the last 6 years of
flying after a 15 year absence for the hobby. TIA for letting me vent and
as my budddy Bobby Satalino would say "Have a nice
day"! Mike Mueller<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. <a
href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42974/*http:/www.yahoo.com/preview">Check it
out.</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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