[NSRCA-discussion] OK it's time to stir things up. Where's thebeef?

[Earl Haury]

Mike

After each WC a Team Selection Chair is selected and that person develops a Team Selection Program with the assistance of the Team Selection Committee, which is them voted upon by the previous TSP entrants. These are the folks that need to be influenced. I agree that returning to a  system that required everyone to qualify in a meaningful manner would get more "name" folks to local meets - I've wondered why their sponsors don't require it (the answer is often the sponsors want these folks promoting products in a different venue). But remember - those affected are voting for / against the program.

Some felt that the programs years ago needed some way to limit the number of competitors to those actually qualified - pattern was the place to be and just flying in the "Masters" was a big deal - entry levels could be very high. Eventually higher fees were used to limit entrants as it became difficult to participate in enough contests to meet qualification standards. (Usually one not only had to compete, but place well to get qualification points). There were "bragging rights" just for qualifying.

I prefer a qualification program and a stand alone Team Selection Competition (much like the "Masters" used to be) but the participation level vs. cost simply makes this impractical. TSC event costs are typically around $5000 (and someone must step forward to host the event), making the entry fee steep when there are 15 - 20 entrants. Many competitors find cost / time force them to choose between the TSC and the Nats - so in effect these events have / would compete for entrants. 

Incorporating the TSC into the Nats is a logical and cost effective solution. Entering F3A at the Nats just gets Nats participation, paying additional TSC fees provides the opportunity to compete for a spot on the Team. Only the top competitors (and a few that pay the fees as Team support) enter the TSC - others fly the same program for Nats honors. Losing a few competitors who live in regions were qualification at local meets is very difficult won't help. Waiving qualifications for immediate past Teams / Nats Champs doesn't encourage these folks to attend local meets. As priority is to put forth the very best WC Team USA, the current system works well in making it easy for any WC Team aspirant to give it a shot.

Earl

Team Selection Committee, Dist VIII



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: mike mueller 
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  Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] OK it's time to stir things up. Where's thebeef?


   Hey Bob is there a way to get this brought up to the Board of Directors as a proposal? Mike

  Bob Kane <getterflash at yahoo.com> wrote: 
    AMEN !!!! When I first competed 10 years ago it was a
    thrill to meet flyers like Dave Von Linsowe, Geoff
    Combs, Dave Patrick, . . . some of the "big" names in
    pattern at that time, competing at local contests. I
    agree this presence is lacking at most local contests
    nowadays. I think participation in a miminum number of
    local contests should be a requirement to qualify for
    the team trials.

    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: mike mueller 
    > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
    > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:03 AM
    > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] OK it's time to stir
    > things up. Where's the beef?
    > 
    > 
    > I have an observation that I've made that
    > disturbes me. I don't think that we are getting
    > enough of the top notch or team worthy flyers
    > participating on a local level. 
    > I think that in the future the team trials need
    > to be revamped so that a flyer wanting to make the
    > team would be required to fly in at least 3 to 5
    > local contests per year.
    > Here's why I think this is important. We need the
    > top names in our sport to be part of the sport from
    > a leadership standpoint. Imagine a QQ showing up to
    > fly against Andrew at a local contest. It would be
    > much more exciting to watch and it would therefore
    > promote more interest. If we continue on the path we
    > are going interest in pattern will continue to
    > slide.
    > In the 70's when the team selection was known as
    > the Masters you had to fly your way into the contest
    > by accumulating points on the local level. It was
    > exciting. Were totally missing the boat with our
    > present system.
    > So here's the deal. Support the real pattern
    > flyers who make the effort to support us and we will
    > all be better off. Oh and for what it's worth I
    > think we would be better off all around if we didn't
    > allow any stickers or blatant advertising of any
    > products in our sport. Let's get back to the flyers
    > who do it on there own without all the sponsorships.
    > All this is just what I've seen in the last 6
    > years of flying after a 15 year absence for the
    > hobby. TIA for letting me vent and as my budddy
    > Bobby Satalino would say "Have a nice day"! 
    > Mike Mueller
    > 
    > 
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