[NSRCA-discussion] clarification

Eddie Batchelor perkinsrx at centurytel.net
Mon Sep 25 12:18:37 AKDT 2006


Thanks Wayne.  My mistake and I apologise to Troy.
I too like the Aresti.
I agree with Georgie it would be easier if #5 & #8 were switched.
Eddie
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  Nope look again

  #8 is shown as a 1/2 cuban 8 while #5 is a 1/2 reverse cuban. Look at the
start of the figure its the circle. The end is the "T" at the end of the
line.

  I love the Aresti its so much better than the ribbon drawings! I know I'm
tainted by IMAC but its really great that we now have the Pattern stuff in
Aresti makes the change back and forth so much easier. Most IMAC guys would
not know what a Double Immelmann is from a hole in the wall. But in Aresti
he can see it and make it look like the picture. Done deal!

  Bravo for the effort to bring AMA Pattern inline with the rest of the
aerobatic world. Many have stated it on this list before aerobatics is
aerobatics and its good that we can now speak the same language. Once you
spend a little time looking at it its easy to read. In fact I think its
easier than any of the other forms of drawing that guys have tried. Yes its
not to scale but it gets the point across and we already know the radii must
match and the rolls are centered on lines. The Aresti is the crib sheet, or
the short hand method. Most IMAC pilots now use the Aresti as their call
sheet.

  Wayne
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    From: Eddie Batchelor
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    Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 7:56 AM
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    Looking at the aresti Troy posted on Flying Giants shows the break
points at 6/7  & 11/12.
    He also show #5 & #8 as both 1/2 reverse cubans.  The description on
NSRCA does state : #5 1/2 reverse cuban and #8 1/2 cuban. I agree with your
assesment that switching 5 & 8 would be nice. That would place the 1/2 cuban
just before the 2 loops , that;s where it is currently.
    Eddie
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of John Pavlick
      Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:55 PM
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      Georgie,
       Yeah that's the way I figured it should be too - box exit / enter
between maneuvers 6 & 7 and 11 & 12. I'm still wondering about the 1/2
Cuban -> Cobra though.

      John Pavlick
      http://www.idseng.com


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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of george w.
kennie
        Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 2:08 PM
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        2007 Sportsman:
        Question: Is there supposed to be a box exit between maneuver 6 and
maneuver 7?  It would seem that there must be as 6 is upwind and 7 is
downwind, but there is no reference to it in the sequence as presented.
        Also following this, maneuver # 8 is a 1/2 Cuban which brings you
too far back into the box to allow for a straight line before the start of
the required # 9 Cobra. If # 6 and # 8 are swapped, it would solve this
problem.
        Must be another box exit between 11 & 12 , but it's not indicated.
         Would Mr. Ramsey please help me out here  and shed a little light
on my dilemma.
        Thank you Don,
        Georgie


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