[NSRCA-discussion] Aero design question

[Lance Van Nostrand]

Good point Nat.  Thanks.  Still, having aileron in the slipstream provides lift even as airspeed slows.  Agree?
--lance

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  From: Nat Penton 
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  Lance - Peter
  Sorry for the delayed response. I would like to point out the slipstream effect on the empennage is more of a steady state nature, whereas the aileron effects are instantaneously disruptive.                    Nat
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Lance Van Nostrand 
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    Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 5:19 PM
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    Nat and Peter,

    I differ on this.  I've built 3 sets of test wings on an Aries with 20, 22, 24" ailerons.  The idea was to see if I could get more aileron effectiveness while flying at a slower pace on uplines.  this is where airspeed is lower and ailerons lose effectiveness.  The thought is to catch some of the prop blast to boost effectiveness and give a more consistent feel.

    It works well.  Do not be concerned about longer ailerons affecting airflow over the stab.  The swirling propstream does far more damage.  On the Symphony I found 22" to be my favorite and I've updated the kit.  On the Aries, 24" seems to work best.

    It sure is great to be able to continuously improve a good desing into a great one.  Every time you start over with a new plane there's a whole new learning curve.

    --Lance

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      From: Nat Penton 
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      Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:12 PM
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      Peter
      You are not barking up the wrong tree <G> - there is no reason not to stop the aileron about even with the stab tip. You have nothing to lose.  Nat 
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Peter Pennisi 
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        Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:35 PM
        Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Aero design question


         

        My current model has ailerons which extend a fair way towards the fuselage (Comp-ARF IMPACT) What effect does the turbulence coming off the aileron have on the tail plane. I am currently building another IMPACT (IMHO flies extremely well) which I am considering to reduce their size by cutting and fixing the inboard part to the wing in an attempt to clean up the airflow over the tail plane during rolling maneuvers .  The model does roll well but it could be better.

         

        Am I barking up the wrong tree - any thoughts!

         

        Peter 



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