[NSRCA-discussion] Partner set-up question

[george w. kennie]

Hey Claude,
I don't know how extreme you want to get in fixing the flight anomolies of your Genesis, but if it is indeed exactly the same as the Partner in measurement details, then you can fix it by adding 5/32"dihedral on each panel and lowering the stab to 33mm below the datum line.
G.




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Claude Weimer 
  To: 'NSRCA Mailing List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:00 AM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Partner set-up question


  Thanks for the effort Tom. I will tell you what I'm doing. A guy in our group has a Genesis ARF and it does some weird things in knife edge. I think the Genesis is a Partner copy and I want to see if the setup is the same. Another one in our group is going to build a Genesis this winter and if the Partner is set up different he is going to set it up like the Partner. Roberts's plane, the guy with the Genesis ARF, will tuck to the gear and roll right with left rudder. It is not as bad with the right rudder. The guys in Chicago have Genesis and some are having problems also. So I thought it would be interesting to compare the two planes. Thanks again, Claude.


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  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Koenig, Tom
  Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:17 PM
  To: NSRCA Mailing List
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Partner set-up question

   

  Hello Claude and all,

   

  These are the measurements I came up with. Please-if anyone has other data it would be interesting to compare. First up nothing earth shattering as far as the numbers are concerned. Quite standard actually.

   

  Partner

   

  With reference to the canopy floor.

   

  Datum line/spinner center    56 mm below canopy line

  wing center                        92 mm below canopy line( or 36 mm below datum line)

  stab center                        63 mm below canopy line( or 7 mm below datum line)

   

   

  Lazulite

   

  With reference to the canopy floor.

   

  Datum line/spinner center    56 mm below canopy line

  wing center                        90 mm below canopy line( or 34 mm below datum line)

  stab center                       57 mm below canopy line( or 1 mm below datum line)

   

  I presume that with the stab center on the Lazulite, I may have made an error in measurement and that the stab is actually located ON the datum line( it was getting late!)

   

   

  The models are actually very similar, with a bit of coaxing the Lazulite Canopy will fit on a Partner and vice versa.

   

  I have not compared 1/4 chord to 1/4 chord moments-but if these are wanted I'll measure that up as well.

   

  The Lazulite was disgustingly close ( by millimeters) to my own Merlin design.I'm still kicking myself for the cash that was 'burnt'.

   

  Hope it is of help.

   

   

  Tom

   

   

    -----Original Message-----
    From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Claude Weimer
    Sent: Tuesday, 17 October 2006 8:52 AM
    To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Partner set-up question

    Tom,

     

    No one else has responded.  I would really appreciate if you could give me the information. I can deal with metrics if that's what you use. 

     

    Thanks, Claude

     

     


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    From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Koenig, Tom
    Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 4:20 PM
    To: NSRCA Mailing List
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Partner set-up question

     

    Claude,

     

    Have you had any answers yet?

     

    If not-I'll measure up my unbuilt one and see what the numbers are. I hope they will make sense with the results from others?

     

    Tom

    -----Original Message-----
    From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Claude Weimer
    Sent: Monday, 16 October 2006 12:53 PM
    To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
    Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Partner setup question

    Can some one tell me the distance below the engine thrust line to the centerline of the wing on the Partner? And I would also like to know the distance above the wing centerline to the center of the horizontal stab. Thanks, Claude. 

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