[NSRCA-discussion] The true meaning of S&G-trust me....I know

Wayne Galligan wgalligan at texasairnet.com
Tue Oct 17 19:24:57 AKDT 2006


BTW  Gray......right arm!!!   I like the Fowleron thing you did there.  Splains a lot.  Specially coming from an aspiring advanced flyer.

Now was that a right or a left turn on the way up/down?  Seems I had my fair share of wrong turns this year.

Wayne G.

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  From: mark hunt 
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  Perhaps Fowler is short for Fowleron....
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    From: Ron Van Putte 
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    On Oct 17, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Amir Neshati wrote:


      .......just wondering, is Gray is short for Grayceful?



    I was wondering too.  And is Fowler long for Flap?


    Ron Van Putte







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      From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Gray E Fowler
      Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:51 PM
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      Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] The true meaning of S&G-trust me....I know



      S and G equal or implies slow and better control????? Once again this is read between the lines, then say it enough and it gotta be right ...right. If you, a Masters pilot  told a whole generation of Sportsman pilots  that even though the rules say NOTHING about how fast a roll is, a proper roll is slow =S&G then when they are Masters they will spew the same BS.  I think thats what we have here. To me, a crisp roll that starts and stops at the proper points is harder to do, and thus shows more control, but regardless I score it exactly the same as a slower roll that starts and stops at the proper point..all other things equal- and I do beleive thats what the rules say. 

      For those that want to imply the S&G is a main scoring point I think you as a person are missing some kind of "romance" in your life and are trying to apply it to a bunch of toy airplanes....Some how showing your belly is not a romantic as showing your top....which under some circumstances I would agree with but not on an airplane. 

      Smooth means do not be jerky...speed has nothing to do with it. If you go too fast then you MIGHT get jerky. If you as a judge, are downgrading a manuever because it is faster than what you think it should be, and you do not have a true recordable downgrade then you are damaging Pattern. If you EVER tell a Sportsman or Intermediate such drivel the you are damaging Pattern. 
      Graceful means God knows what  and hence the problem here-Wait....Graceful applies to the judge, which means do not be an Icehole by applying non written rules. 

      By the way, in my opinion, ALL of my posts are extremly GRACEFUL.  If you disagree, you are just plain wrong, I know, I am a Master Poster. 



      Gray Fowler
      Senior Principal Chemical Engineer
      Radome and Composites Engineering
      Raytheon 

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