[NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question

[dwaynenancy]

Nope.  He flew Mode 1 and would challenge anybody to do LOW hesitation 
rolls in and from any direction.  He was just attempting to hide small 
changes in heading that would lead to a down grade in his score.  You 
would be surprised at the number of people that can only do rolls in one 
direction.  I've even seen "accomplished" pilots that could only land 
over a particular  shoulder.  People want to do it the comfortable way 
and no other.  Look at how many people roll one way only when going 
vertical.  The old pattern Figure M showed canopy then belly or belly 
than canopy but never the same.  Dwayne

Del K. Rykert wrote:

>I would bet he only stated that as he was more comfortable easing in a 
>little up rather than down while on knife edge..
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>     Del
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "dwaynenancy" <dwaynenancy at cox.net>
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>>Dr. Ralph Brooke (world champion) said always to do your rolls away from
>>the flight line.  This makes any directional heading movement less
>>noticeable.  Dwayne
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>>Mark Atwood wrote:
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>>>I would disagree...it IS defined.  Figure M with 3/4 rolls.  Roll 
>>>direction
>>>is optional, stall direction is optional.  That's always been the case
>>>unless it's specified otherwise.  There's no "implied" roll direction, 
>>>just
>>>one that some think looks better.  That will always be the case.
>>>
>>>Some people do their four points in different directions so as to show the
>>>canopy first, or last, which ever they feel presents better...Not sure I
>>>personally care, but for those that do...go for it.   I know I'll catch
>>>flack for say this, but this IS a subjective sport.  Presentation DOES
>>>matter... Always will.  It's shouldn't outweigh the objective criteria, 
>>>but
>>>it's not worthless either.
>>>
>>>
>>>On 10/17/06 3:11 PM, "jivey61 at bellsouth.net" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net> 
>>>wrote:
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>>>>G
>>>>Yes you agree ..but you also see we have to define it now or everybody 
>>>>will
>>>>be flying and judging it differently. What a mess that will be.
>>>>
>>>>Jim Ivey
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "george w. kennie" <geobet at gis.net>
>>>>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:50 PM
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>>>>>Jim,
>>>>>It certainly will work this way, but your original method will present
>>>>>better. With the roll direction being pilots option your original
>>>>>ll/rr-rr/ll is a much prettier maneuver. There's something to be said 
>>>>>for
>>>>>presenting the canopy to the judges on rolling maneuvers. I apply this
>>>>>technique on all maneuvers with rolling elements unless the specified
>>>>>requirement forces otherwise, like reverse K.E.'s.  IMHO, you had it 
>>>>>right
>>>>>the first time!
>>>>>G.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
>>>>>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:17 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question
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>>>>>
>>>>>>Bob
>>>>>>If I read the Aresti correct the rolls on both vertical lines are the
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>>>>same
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>>>>>>direction.This makes it lt-lt and lt-lt coming from the left and rt-rt
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>>>>and
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>>>>>>rt-rt coming from the right.Like Jerry  said look at top of plane one
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>>>>time
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>>>>>>and bottom of the plane next time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jim Ivey
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Bob Kane" <getterflash at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>>>            
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