[NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question

Del K. Rykert drykert2 at rochester.rr.com
Tue Oct 17 15:34:16 AKDT 2006


I would bet he only stated that as he was more comfortable easing in a 
little up rather than down while on knife edge..

     Del

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dwaynenancy" <dwaynenancy at cox.net>
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> Dr. Ralph Brooke (world champion) said always to do your rolls away from
> the flight line.  This makes any directional heading movement less
> noticeable.  Dwayne
>
> Mark Atwood wrote:
>
>>I would disagree...it IS defined.  Figure M with 3/4 rolls.  Roll 
>>direction
>>is optional, stall direction is optional.  That's always been the case
>>unless it's specified otherwise.  There's no "implied" roll direction, 
>>just
>>one that some think looks better.  That will always be the case.
>>
>>Some people do their four points in different directions so as to show the
>>canopy first, or last, which ever they feel presents better...Not sure I
>>personally care, but for those that do...go for it.   I know I'll catch
>>flack for say this, but this IS a subjective sport.  Presentation DOES
>>matter... Always will.  It's shouldn't outweigh the objective criteria, 
>>but
>>it's not worthless either.
>>
>>
>>On 10/17/06 3:11 PM, "jivey61 at bellsouth.net" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net> 
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>G
>>>Yes you agree ..but you also see we have to define it now or everybody 
>>>will
>>>be flying and judging it differently. What a mess that will be.
>>>
>>>Jim Ivey
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "george w. kennie" <geobet at gis.net>
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>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:50 PM
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jim,
>>>>It certainly will work this way, but your original method will present
>>>>better. With the roll direction being pilots option your original
>>>>ll/rr-rr/ll is a much prettier maneuver. There's something to be said 
>>>>for
>>>>presenting the canopy to the judges on rolling maneuvers. I apply this
>>>>technique on all maneuvers with rolling elements unless the specified
>>>>requirement forces otherwise, like reverse K.E.'s.  IMHO, you had it 
>>>>right
>>>>the first time!
>>>>G.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
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>>>>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:17 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bob
>>>>>If I read the Aresti correct the rolls on both vertical lines are the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>same
>>>
>>>
>>>>>direction.This makes it lt-lt and lt-lt coming from the left and rt-rt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>>>rt-rt coming from the right.Like Jerry  said look at top of plane one
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>time
>>>
>>>
>>>>>and bottom of the plane next time.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim Ivey
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Bob Kane" <getterflash at yahoo.com>
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