[NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question

[jivey61 at bellsouth.net]

Yes
I have flown it for 10 years in SPA,as long as it was part of the
sequences.I also judged it this past weekend at their Masters Championship
in Atlanta.

Jim Ivey
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dwaynenancy" <dwaynenancy at cox.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question


> You should look at the Figure M in the Master's pattern of 25 years ago
> except it was done with half rolls.  The first maneuver other than take
> off and it set the whole quality of the flight.  Dwayne
>
> jivey61 at bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> >Jerry
> >You are right I looked at the aresti again and the rolls are shown the
same
> >direction.
> >Sorry Bob...my bad.Gotta get another crutch now.
> >Jim Ivey
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Jerry Budd" <jerry at buddengineering.com>
> >To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:19 PM
> >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi Jim,
> >>
> >>Unless the maneuver has changed from 15 years ago all the rolls have
> >>to be in the same direction, resulting in one stall turn being
> >>canopy-facing you and the other being belly-facing you (your choice
> >>as to which comes first).  It's a tough maneuver, especially when the
> >>wind is blowing other than down the runway.
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Bob
> >>> My memory crutch is,when flying from left to right, the 1st 2 roll
> >>>directions are left-left and 2nd 2 roll directions are right-right.
> >>>When flying from the right to left,the 1st 2 roll directions are
> >>>
> >>>
> >right-right
> >
> >
> >>>and 2nd 2 roll directions are left-left.
> >>>Like Arch said the center half  loop is inverted in both cases.
> >>>Lotsa a upside down.
> >>>
> >>>Jim Ivey
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Archie Stafford" <rcpattern at stx.rr.com>
> >>>To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:11 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Bob,
> >>>>
> >>>> It has to be inverted.  The direction of roll must be the same on
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >every
> >
> >
> >>>3/4
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> roll therefore you end up inverted across the middle.
> >>>>
> >>>> Arch
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> >>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bob
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >Kane
> >
> >
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:53 AM
> >>>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> >>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, I'm finally try to fly this thing with a pencil . . . . . .
one
> >>>> question I have (so far) is the 1/2 loop between the two stall turns
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >in
> >
> >
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> figure M: Does it matter if it is an inside or outside half loop?
The
> >>>> aresti diagram posted on Flying Giants shows it as an outside half
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >loop
> >
> >
> >>>with
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> no option.  Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob Kane
> >>>> getterflash at yahoo.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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