[NSRCA-discussion] Impression or precision judging?

[twtaylor]

I've always heard, rightly or wrongly that in a 4 point roll to stay on the
point as long as it took you to get to the point. I've always done 4 points
slow which does tend to drag them out. Where you start the roll tells me how
big and how long on the points if you center it.

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Steven
Maxwell
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Impression or precision judging?



 Chris I have seen way to many flying point rolls that don't have much if
any stops, if I don't see a stop it is a downgrade at best and I guess some
would argue that it would be a zero but to me missing a stop in an 8 point
roll would be 2 or 3 points 45 dgrees off. Sense I flew in the 80's I took
great pride in my point rolls and I think it shows today, I have been told
by many top pilots that my point rolls are as good as they have seen, and
yes I do miss points also at times but there is no doubt that I stopped and
that my points are at 45 degree to each other. To me this is precision but
also has a smooth and graceful element to it.

Steve Maxwell 

 

 

Example 2:

An example of impression that I can think of would be some of the point
rolls that I used to see in the 70s.the ones that kind of slip & lock into
each point (exaggerated lock in), but I could not score them better than
points that merely stop where they are supposed to with minimum
fanfare..could I? (In fact since one could argue that the roll rate changes
to get that effect it could be downgraded more..)  But I like it, its an
individual preference, but to the letter of the law its incorrect.

 
 
 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: White, Chris <mailto:chris at ssd.fsi.com>  
To: NSRCA Mailing List <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
Sent: 10/3/2006 6:54:09 AM 
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Impression or precision judging?



 

Id love to hear some feedback to the following: (or maybe not, but it might
help my understanding of what were trying to accomplish in our
judging/flying:-))

 

Question:

Isnt clinical precision flying the only way to attempt to remove impression
judging?  Shouldnt the sequence itself if flown to precision be the art
form?

 

Example 1: 

I saw one pilot fly the FAI sequence at our contest last June. To me his
flying was clinically precise without any Style of his own.  I mean that
very much as a compliment.  The roll rates and radiuses and speeds to me
were very consistent.his timing and flight line control were very
Clinically precise  It struck me at that if a computer GPS link could have
been flown with an autopilot laying out the perfectly executed sequence he
would have been close.  The nearly perfect geometry of the sequence spoke
for itself.

 

Example 2:

An example of impression that I can think of would be some of the point
rolls that I used to see in the 70s.the ones that kind of slip & lock into
each point (exaggerated lock in), but I could not score them better than
points that merely stop where they are supposed to with minimum
fanfare..could I? (In fact since one could argue that the roll rate changes
to get that effect it could be downgraded more..)  But I like it, its an
individual preference, but to the letter of the law its incorrect.

 

Maybe we should judge by technical merit and each judge give an overall
Impression rating someplace on the scoresheet???

 

(Wow I spent all this time trying to think of how to word this.Gee do I hit
the send button.??????  I hope this strikes a positive chord
somewhereokay my motive is to learn so Ill send it.)

Chris White

 


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