[NSRCA-discussion] Impression or precision judging?

[White, Chris]

Hi Steve,

I really like rolls ....and I would judge them as you do....missing a
point would be disastrous to the overall maneuver score.  I think the
point hesitation time has a lot to do with the appearance of
smoothness...do you?

Chris

 

 

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Maxwell
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Impression or precision judging?

 

 Chris I have seen way to many flying point rolls that don't have much
if any stops, if I don't see a stop it is a downgrade at best and I
guess some would argue that it would be a zero but to me missing a stop
in an 8 point roll would be 2 or 3 points 45 dgrees off. Sense I flew in
the 80's I took great pride in my point rolls and I think it shows
today, I have been told by many top pilots that my point rolls are as
good as they have seen, and yes I do miss points also at times but there
is no doubt that I stopped and that my points are at 45 degree to each
other. To me this is precision but also has a smooth and graceful
element to it.

Steve Maxwell 

 

 

Example 2:

An example of impression that I can think of would be some of the point
rolls that I used to see in the 70s.the ones that kind of slip & lock
into each point (exaggerated lock in), but I could not score them better
than points that merely stop where they are supposed to with minimum
fanfare..could I? (In fact since one could argue that the roll rate
changes to get that effect it could be downgraded more..)  But I like
it, its an individual preference, but to the letter of the law its
incorrect.

 

 

 

 

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: White, Chris <mailto:chris at ssd.fsi.com>  

	To: NSRCA Mailing List <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>


	Sent: 10/3/2006 6:54:09 AM 

	Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Impression or precision judging?

	 

	 

	Id love to hear some feedback to the following: (or maybe not,
but it might help my understanding of what were trying to accomplish in
our judging/flying:-))

	 

	Question:

	Isnt clinical precision flying the only way to attempt to
remove impression judging?  Shouldnt the sequence itself if flown to
precision be the art form?

	 

	Example 1: 

	I saw one pilot fly the FAI sequence at our contest last June.
To me his flying was clinically precise without any Style of his own.
I mean that very much as a compliment.  The roll rates and radiuses and
speeds to me were very consistent.his timing and flight line control
were very Clinically precise  It struck me at that if a computer GPS
link could have been flown with an autopilot laying out the perfectly
executed sequence he would have been close.  The nearly perfect geometry
of the sequence spoke for itself.

	 

	Example 2:

	An example of impression that I can think of would be some of
the point rolls that I used to see in the 70s.the ones that kind of
slip & lock into each point (exaggerated lock in), but I could not score
them better than points that merely stop where they are supposed to with
minimum fanfare..could I? (In fact since one could argue that the roll
rate changes to get that effect it could be downgraded more..)  But I
like it, its an individual preference, but to the letter of the law its
incorrect.

	 

	Maybe we should judge by technical merit and each judge give an
overall Impression rating someplace on the scoresheet???

	 

	(Wow I spent all this time trying to think of how to word
this.Gee do I hit the send button.??????  I hope this strikes a positive
chord somewhereokay my motive is to learn so Ill send it.)

	Chris White

	 

	
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