[NSRCA-discussion] Pipe Length for 18.1

Dean Pappas d.pappas at kodeos.com
Wed Nov 29 11:47:01 AKST 2006


Hi Mike,
So do you encounter much richening of the mixture if you stand on the throttle in prolonged level flight?
How about during just the tiniest bit of a dive at wide open throttle?
later,
Dean

Dean Pappas
Sr. Design Engineer
Kodeos Communications
111 Corporate Blvd.
South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
(908) 222-7817 phone
(908) 222-2392 fax
d.pappas at kodeos.com


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Dr. Mike
Harrison
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pipe Length for 18.1


I have got to remember to measure, I think I am closer to 26.5 inches
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas at kodeos.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pipe Length for 18.1


>I just realized, that qoute is probably more like "Riiiiight! What's a 
>cubit?"
>
> Dean Pappas
> Sr. Design Engineer
> Kodeos Communications
> 111 Corporate Blvd.
> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
> (908) 222-7817 phone
> (908) 222-2392 fax
> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Dean
> Pappas
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:55 AM
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pipe Length for 18.1
>
>
>
> Hi Anthony,
> Yes! The pipe length specified in cubits ..." What's a cubit?" "Let's see, 
> I used to know what a cubit was."
> The stock OS header plus a Hattori 900 pipe yields 24" to the baffle. 
> (1.33 cubits)
> This is where I run my pipe length, using a Bolly 140 EQ, but I use a 
> throttle-coupled
> mixture control needle valve to fix the fuel metering for the prop I use.
> I also run rather rich with two glo-plugs and only one head gasket, which 
> already helps with the mid-range richness.
> For must of us running two head gaskets, to stop the pinging, pipe lengths 
> maybe 25" to 26"  are more appropriate.
> If I understand Mike, he runs at close to 25".
>
> later,
> Dean
>
>
> Dean Pappas
> Sr. Design Engineer
> Kodeos Communications
> 111 Corporate Blvd.
> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
> (908) 222-7817 phone
> (908) 222-2392 fax
> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Anthony
> Romano
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:16 AM
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Pipe Length for 18.1
>
>
>
> Interesting comments will have to give on of these a try. I like to have
> more speed available so the  18.1 X 10.1  sounds more appropriate than the
> W. Am I correct on this?
> Does anyone have a pipe length glow plug to baffle since I cut my headers?
> Inches, MM, cubits, etc.
>
> Anthony
>
>>From: "Dave Smith" <davidsmith at ns.sympatico.ca>
>>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pipe Length
>>Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:00:17 -0400
>>
>>Thanks Mike.  I ran this prop for a few flights on the same pipe setting 
>>as
>>I used for a 16x12.5 wide APC,and 15% Cool Power. It would turn about
>>7400,but I backed off the needle so that it barely touched 7200.  It 
>>pulled
>>a 10.75 lb.
>>Brio surprisingly well but certainly not well enough on verticals.
>>My mistake in misnaming the fuel I intend to use.
>>
>>Thanks again
>>
>>Dave
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Dr. Mike Harrison
>>   To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>   Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:38 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Pipe Length
>>
>>
>>   One more thing, the Cool Power is 20% Problend.
>>   Mike
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     From: Dave Smith
>>     To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>     Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:46 PM
>>     Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Pipe Length
>>
>>
>>     What would be a good starting point to set an ES tuned pipe,Model 2C
>>140MU on an OS 140 RX,(w/extra head shim and OS "F" plug),running on Cool
>>Power 20/20?
>>
>>     Prop is APC 18.1x10.1W.
>>
>>     Thans,Dave  NSRCA  #943
>>
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