[NSRCA-discussion] Started somewhere as RE: Brio Hinges
dwaynenancy
dwaynenancy at cox.net
Thu Nov 16 08:19:41 AKST 2006
Please tell him I said hi. I used to live in Dallas in the mid 60's and
he would come to the Dallas R/C Clubs pattern contest along with Bill
Thomas. Dwayne Brown
White, Chris wrote:
>Yes Dwayne, Bill has had some health trials the last few years, but he and his wife Betty are still living in Tulsa.
>Chris
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of dwaynenancy
>Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:18 AM
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>
>Shoe polish smell is nitro benzene. Is Bill Knost still around? Dwayne
>
>White, Chris wrote:
>
>
>
>>Thanks Dave…. I’d heard about the fuel that smelled like shoe polish
>>and came in glass jars….! Man, I really do enjoy the history of
>>modeling…. remembering one of the first books I picked up as a kid of
>>6 was a copy of Bill Winters (Model Aircraft Handbook) which I believe
>>was dated 1944….I gave .25 for it and still have it.
>>
>>In 1976 I worked for my friend Bill Knost, (House of Hobbies Tulsa, ….
>>Bill used to fly CL speed, Goodyear, and made the circuit flying class
>>II with Flat Top Stormers and the like. Back in those days he built
>>about an airplane a week in order to keep one flyingJ) anyway, in the
>>shop the stories just went on an on from guys about the old days…love
>>it man..love it. If I had a nickel for every time I heard the guys
>>talk about flying CL with the Atwood engines
>>
>>So Mark Atwood…Small world….. some 28 years later I fly with you (you
>>cd’d Comair contest 2004 and I guess about every yearJ) I guess your
>>dad is Don Atwood the engine designer…..????
>>
>>Chris
>>
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>>*From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *k6xyz
>>*Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:07 PM
>>*To:* 'NSRCA Mailing List'
>>*Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>
>>Hey!!!
>>
>>I just knew all you Atwood guys would speak up!! Hehehheh…..
>>
>>Chris, I think the Cox TD .049’s had more suds than the Shriek but the
>>Cox’s were about 10 years later according to Bill Atwood’s bio.
>>
>>Leroy Cox hired Atwood to design the TD series so that’s probably why
>>they are/were so good.
>>
>>The Shriek seemed to run best on Cox red can or O&R Gold Seal fuel
>>with a Kay Sun 5.2 x 4 plastic prop. There was some guy around here
>>making a fuel called “This is It”. It was brown and smelled like shoe
>>polish and came in a (shudder) glass jar. If you spilled a little on
>>your finger, 2 days later you grew a 3^rd eyeball!!
>>
>>I haven’t tried a Norvell but they look nice. Really, I prefer the
>>radial mount like the Atwood series of engines because they are
>>lighter, smaller and easier to mount. This isn’t a problem with
>>profile style models but the square fuse models like the Snapper would
>>have to be widened slightly in the firewall area.
>>
>>My experience with Atwoods was with C/L not R/C….this was so long ago
>>that R/C was really free flight sometimes interrupted by radio.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Dave Harmon
>>NSRCA 586
>>K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
>>Sperry, Ok.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>*From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of
>>*AtwoodDon at aol.com
>>*Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:33 PM
>>*To:* nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>>*Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>
>>HEY, me too!!!!
>>
>>-Don (Atwood)
>>
>>n a message dated 11/15/2006 4:31:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>>atwoodm at paragon-inc.com writes:
>>
>> HEY!!! I resemble that remark!
>>
>> -Mark (Atwood)
>>
>>
>> On 11/15/06 5:32 PM, "White, Chris" <chris at ssd.fsi.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Dave,
>> So were Atwood’s as hot as I’ve always heard???? Shoot the only
>> thing around in late 60’s -70’s were Cox’. I haven’t even tried
>> the Norvell’s …have you? Small….man we used to have a ball with a
>> Cox .010 powered littlest stick with the Ace pulse single channel.
>> We’re talkin cheap R/C thrills nowJ
>> Chris
>>
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>> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5d> *On Behalf Of
>> *k6xyz
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:13 PM
>> *To:* 'NSRCA Mailing List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>
>> Hey Chris….mine were Snappers with Atwood Shrieks…..clear nitrate
>> over paper.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Dave Harmon
>> NSRCA 586
>> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
>> Sperry, Ok.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5d> *On Behalf Of
>> *White, Chris
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:09 PM
>> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>
>> Hey Bob,
>> I Aero-glossed mine….(orange…best flying ∏ A stunter I had flown…)
>> but you should have seen me doing a “Lil Satan” in transparent
>> blue monokote for my cousinJ
>> Oh, the smells of Aero-Gloss….God only knows how many brain-cells
>> I paid for that experienceJ
>> Chris
>>
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>> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5d> *On Behalf Of
>> *Bob Richards
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:40 AM
>> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>
>>
>> Reminds me of the first time I used Monokote. I was attempting to
>> cover a Goldberg Li'l Jumpin Bean. My Mom's iron was almost as big
>> as the plane!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> IIRC, the instructions said to set the iron for "permanent press". :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Back then (1969??) the Monokote instructions actually showed a
>> regular iron.
>>
>>
>>
>> Solarfilm was a lot easier to use, but did not add much stiffness
>> to a wing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob R.
>>
>>
>>
>> */Dean Pappas <d.pappas at kodeos.com>/* wrote:
>>
>> 'Bout the mid-late sixties, I can remember Mom showing Dad and
>> myself how to monokote a corner properly,
>> before we figured out that working with a clothes iron would
>> build strong muscles!
>> Seems she was frustrated watching us mess up.
>> Dean
>>
>> Dean Pappas
>> Sr. Design Engineer
>> Kodeos Communications
>> 111 Corporate Blvd.
>> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
>> (908) 222-7817 phone
>> (908) 222-2392 fax
>> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5dOn> Behalf
>> Of wgalligan
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:59 AM
>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>
>>
>> I was around then. Didn't invent It though. I did get chewed
>> out for using
>> my wife's iron to apply Mono-Cote and Cover All.
>>
>> WAYNO
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Amir Neshati"
>>
>>
>> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'"
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Nat, Monokote hinges were used before your time...You
>>>
>>>
>> probably aren't old
>>
>>
>>>enough to remember, in the olden days, around the late '70s &
>>>
>>>
>> '80s,
>>
>>
>>>Monokote
>>>used to include instructions on how to do Monokote hinges
>>>
>>>
>> .....Wayno was
>>
>>
>>>around then though, I think he invented the film covering.
>>>
>>>Amir
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
>>>
>>>
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5d> On Behalf
>> Of Nat Penton
>>
>>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:02 AM
>>>To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>>
>>>Arch
>>>Is this for top hinged ails only ? Nat
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Archie Stafford"
>>>To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'"
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:27 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Nat,
>>>>
>>>>Basically after beveling the surface I put a strip about 1"
>>>>
>>>>
>> over the top
>>
>>
>>>>sealing the gap and holding it in place. Flip the aileron up
>>>>
>>>>
>> and then
>>
>>
>>>>put
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>a
>>>>piece on the bottom. Then just cover the entire wing and you
>>>>
>>>>
>> end up with
>>
>>
>>>>an
>>>>incredibly clean finish on top.
>>>>
>>>>Arch
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
>>>>
>>>>
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5d> On Behalf
>> Of Nat Penton
>>
>>
>>>>Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:56 PM
>>>>To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>>>
>>>>Archie
>>>>How do you "do" monocote hinges ? Nat
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Archie Stafford"
>>>>To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'"
>>>>Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:18 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Personally I use Monokote hinges...I know everyone gasps,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> but I have had
>>
>>
>>>>>ZERO problems using Monokote the way they used to do it. My
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> last few
>>
>>
>>>>>airplanes have been top hinged using Monokote hinges and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> I'll continue
>>
>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>do
>>>>>it. Doesn't add any real extra weight. A VERY strong hinge,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> and looks
>>
>>
>>>>>great
>>>>>when covered because you have no gap in your covering. I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> can send you
>>
>>
>>>>>pictures of them if you want. Works great and have had no
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> problems with
>>
>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>monokote coming loose or cracking. Well over 1000 flights
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> on my Mantis
>>
>>
>>>>>I've
>>>>>been currently flying, and plan on using the same method on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> my new Black
>>
>>
>>>>>Magics.
>>>>>
>>>>>Arch Stafford
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5d> On Behalf
>> Of Richard
>>
>>
>>>>>Strickland
>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:38 AM
>>>>>To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
>>>>>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What's the best way to hinge beveled surfaces as on the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> Brio kit?
>>
>>
>>>>>Richard
>>>>>
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