[NSRCA-discussion] Started somewhere as RE: Brio Hinges
White, Chris
chris at ssd.fsi.com
Thu Nov 16 07:35:50 AKST 2006
Yes Dwayne, Bill has had some health trials the last few years, but he and his wife Betty are still living in Tulsa.
Chris
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of dwaynenancy
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Started somewhere as RE: Brio Hinges
Shoe polish smell is nitro benzene. Is Bill Knost still around? Dwayne
White, Chris wrote:
> Thanks Dave…. I’d heard about the fuel that smelled like shoe polish
> and came in glass jars….! Man, I really do enjoy the history of
> modeling…. remembering one of the first books I picked up as a kid of
> 6 was a copy of Bill Winters (Model Aircraft Handbook) which I believe
> was dated 1944….I gave .25 for it and still have it.
>
> In 1976 I worked for my friend Bill Knost, (House of Hobbies Tulsa, ….
> Bill used to fly CL speed, Goodyear, and made the circuit flying class
> II with Flat Top Stormers and the like. Back in those days he built
> about an airplane a week in order to keep one flyingJ) anyway, in the
> shop the stories just went on an on from guys about the old days…love
> it man..love it. If I had a nickel for every time I heard the guys
> talk about flying CL with the Atwood engines
>
> So Mark Atwood…Small world….. some 28 years later I fly with you (you
> cd’d Comair contest 2004 and I guess about every yearJ) I guess your
> dad is Don Atwood the engine designer…..????
>
> Chris
>
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> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *k6xyz
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:07 PM
> *To:* 'NSRCA Mailing List'
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>
> Hey!!!
>
> I just knew all you Atwood guys would speak up!! Hehehheh…..
>
> Chris, I think the Cox TD .049’s had more suds than the Shriek but the
> Cox’s were about 10 years later according to Bill Atwood’s bio.
>
> Leroy Cox hired Atwood to design the TD series so that’s probably why
> they are/were so good.
>
> The Shriek seemed to run best on Cox red can or O&R Gold Seal fuel
> with a Kay Sun 5.2 x 4 plastic prop. There was some guy around here
> making a fuel called “This is It”. It was brown and smelled like shoe
> polish and came in a (shudder) glass jar. If you spilled a little on
> your finger, 2 days later you grew a 3^rd eyeball!!
>
> I haven’t tried a Norvell but they look nice. Really, I prefer the
> radial mount like the Atwood series of engines because they are
> lighter, smaller and easier to mount. This isn’t a problem with
> profile style models but the square fuse models like the Snapper would
> have to be widened slightly in the firewall area.
>
> My experience with Atwoods was with C/L not R/C….this was so long ago
> that R/C was really free flight sometimes interrupted by radio.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Harmon
> NSRCA 586
> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
> Sperry, Ok.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of
> *AtwoodDon at aol.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:33 PM
> *To:* nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>
> HEY, me too!!!!
>
> -Don (Atwood)
>
> n a message dated 11/15/2006 4:31:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> atwoodm at paragon-inc.com writes:
>
> HEY!!! I resemble that remark!
>
> -Mark (Atwood)
>
>
> On 11/15/06 5:32 PM, "White, Chris" <chris at ssd.fsi.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Dave,
> So were Atwood’s as hot as I’ve always heard???? Shoot the only
> thing around in late 60’s -70’s were Cox’. I haven’t even tried
> the Norvell’s …have you? Small….man we used to have a ball with a
> Cox .010 powered littlest stick with the Ace pulse single channel.
> We’re talkin cheap R/C thrills nowJ
> Chris
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> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5d> *On Behalf Of
> *k6xyz
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:13 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>
> Hey Chris….mine were Snappers with Atwood Shrieks…..clear nitrate
> over paper.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Harmon
> NSRCA 586
> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
> Sperry, Ok.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5d> *On Behalf Of
> *White, Chris
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:09 PM
> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>
> Hey Bob,
> I Aero-glossed mine….(orange…best flying ∏ A stunter I had flown…)
> but you should have seen me doing a “Lil Satan” in transparent
> blue monokote for my cousinJ
> Oh, the smells of Aero-Gloss….God only knows how many brain-cells
> I paid for that experienceJ
> Chris
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> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5d> *On Behalf Of
> *Bob Richards
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:40 AM
> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>
>
> Reminds me of the first time I used Monokote. I was attempting to
> cover a Goldberg Li'l Jumpin Bean. My Mom's iron was almost as big
> as the plane!!!
>
>
>
> IIRC, the instructions said to set the iron for "permanent press". :-)
>
>
>
> Back then (1969??) the Monokote instructions actually showed a
> regular iron.
>
>
>
> Solarfilm was a lot easier to use, but did not add much stiffness
> to a wing.
>
>
>
> Bob R.
>
>
>
> */Dean Pappas <d.pappas at kodeos.com>/* wrote:
>
> 'Bout the mid-late sixties, I can remember Mom showing Dad and
> myself how to monokote a corner properly,
> before we figured out that working with a clothes iron would
> build strong muscles!
> Seems she was frustrated watching us mess up.
> Dean
>
> Dean Pappas
> Sr. Design Engineer
> Kodeos Communications
> 111 Corporate Blvd.
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> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5dOn> Behalf
> Of wgalligan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:59 AM
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>
>
> I was around then. Didn't invent It though. I did get chewed
> out for using
> my wife's iron to apply Mono-Cote and Cover All.
>
> WAYNO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amir Neshati"
>
>
> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'"
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>
>
>> Nat, Monokote hinges were used before your time...You
> probably aren't old
>> enough to remember, in the olden days, around the late '70s &
> '80s,
>> Monokote
>> used to include instructions on how to do Monokote hinges
> .....Wayno was
>> around then though, I think he invented the film covering.
>>
>> Amir
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5d> On Behalf
> Of Nat Penton
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:02 AM
>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>
>> Arch
>> Is this for top hinged ails only ? Nat
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Archie Stafford"
>> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'"
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>
>>
>>> Nat,
>>>
>>> Basically after beveling the surface I put a strip about 1"
> over the top
>>> sealing the gap and holding it in place. Flip the aileron up
> and then
>>> put
>>
>>> a
>>> piece on the bottom. Then just cover the entire wing and you
> end up with
>>> an
>>> incredibly clean finish on top.
>>>
>>> Arch
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5d> On Behalf
> Of Nat Penton
>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:56 PM
>>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>>
>>> Archie
>>> How do you "do" monocote hinges ? Nat
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Archie Stafford"
>>> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'"
>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:18 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>>
>>>
>>>> Personally I use Monokote hinges...I know everyone gasps,
> but I have had
>>>> ZERO problems using Monokote the way they used to do it. My
> last few
>>>> airplanes have been top hinged using Monokote hinges and
> I'll continue
>>>> to
>>>> do
>>>> it. Doesn't add any real extra weight. A VERY strong hinge,
> and looks
>>>> great
>>>> when covered because you have no gap in your covering. I
> can send you
>>>> pictures of them if you want. Works great and have had no
> problems with
>>>> the
>>>> monokote coming loose or cracking. Well over 1000 flights
> on my Mantis
>>>> I've
>>>> been currently flying, and plan on using the same method on
> my new Black
>>>> Magics.
>>>>
>>>> Arch Stafford
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org%5d> On Behalf
> Of Richard
>>>> Strickland
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:38 AM
>>>> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio Hinges
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What's the best way to hinge beveled surfaces as on the
> Brio kit?
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
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