[NSRCA-discussion] Hacker gearbox

[Keith Black]

I'm in the process of doing a Lube Job to my C50 Standard Hacker. Is loctite
required when putting the STD C50 back together (I assume it is based on
comments in Verne's post)?

If so, where is the loctite used, threads on gearbox or threads on set
screws?

What loctite is used? 222 (low-strength) or medium?

Thanks,
Keith Black

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Verne Koester" <verne at twmi.rr.com>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hacker gearbox


> Stuart,
> The separate washer is unique to the comp motor. BTW, the gears and all
the
> stuff inside is the same. The biggest advantage to the comp motor is the
> brake built in to the controller and the fan between the gearbox and the
> motor the blows air through the windings. There's no power differences.
>
> Back to yours. Without knowing what grease the previous owner used, it's
> nearly impossible to analyze it. Looking at your photo, the grease appears
> wet and shiny which is good. When it turns into a dull, metal-laden paste,
> bad things happen. I suspect you're going to see some darkness regardless
of
> the grease, at least until the gears wear in.  I'd suggest following the
> directions you downloaded which I'm assuming came from the comp version.
> Clean all the existing grease out and make sure you don't lose the little
> bitty washers under each of the three planetary gears.
>
> If you take the shaft out, make sure to keep track of those washers as
well.
> There's three of them and each one is different and needs to be in the
right
> place.
>
> BTW, using a syringe and your finger to pack the bearing in the
planetaries
> as suggested in the comp directions works really well. The pressure
created
> by that technique forces lube in behind the needles in those little
> bearings. I use PPG wax and grease remover and a pipe cleaner to clean the
> planetaries and bearings prior to repacking them.
>
> Finally, make sure the planetaries are placed back in as described in the
> instructions. One end has a bevel ground in and it needs to be oriented
> properly. The bevel is on the side where printing is stamped into the face
> of the needle bearings and is the side you see in your attached photo.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Verne
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stuart Chale" <schale at optonline.net>
> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Hacker gearbox
>
>
> > Now for the question.
> >
> > Attached is a picture of my motor open.  Standard C50 not the Comp
> > version.
> > The washer over the planetary gears is different from the pictures in
the
> > re-greasing directions.  There is a washer press fit into the cover that
> > is
> > not as large as the one pictured in the directions.  For those of you
who
> > have opened your motors, is this normal or am I missing the larger
washer?
> >
> >>From the pictures it appears that the grease is white.  Was any version
of
> > it dark?  Or does it get dark after running?  The grease in my motor is
> > pretty dark. The motor was bought second hand supposedly un-run but I
get
> > the feeling that is not the case.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Stuart
> >
>
>
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