[NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries

Thu Mar 30 09:13:39 AKST 2006

There is a World of difference between a sport flyer and a pattern guy.
Again, once I got programmed in what it took to practice and the relatively
small amount of time it took, I was able to go out and get 35-50 flights a
week-I 'found' 1 1/2 to 2 hours more often as opposed to the 3-4 it used to
take and practiced more.  At that rate, when a guy gives you a 6 mo.
guarantee-he'd better know the score-and what you expect in service
turn-around.  Unlike a sport guy who flies 3-8 or so flights a weekend where
a 6 mo. guarantee would be reasonable.  I think many of the folks who are in
the battery business go from their experience as sport flyers and not fairly
serious pattern fiends where practice-practice-practice is such a large
component of probable success.

Richard

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]  On Behalf Of Stuart Chale
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Subject:	Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries

George has been quick with email responses and very courteous, but it
doesn't seem like he has the answers either.  I can't find his original
email but he was unable to say that there are people with over 100 cycles on
a pack.  He is convinced that their technology is better than TP but will
that translate into a longer life span?  It seems like we are being asked to
test batteries for the manufacturers instead of them testing their products
under our conditions.

Stuart

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Earl Haury
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries

Chad

Your questions are probably best answered by Falcon
George at FalconBatteries.com . I think that you'll find George quite open with

info, and I'd like to see your assessment of his answers.

Earl

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Northeast" <chadnortheast at shaw.ca>
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Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries

> Earl
>
> Does the Falcon warranty cover simply manufacturers defects...or will they

> replace any abuse/over charged/overdischarge/cycled out pack?
>
> I can't honestly believe that a manufacturer will replace every pack that
> fails, or they will be out of business in a short period of time :)  If
> that is the case I can buy 4 sets of packs and never again purchase
> another battery for as long as they will supply them regardless of usage.
>
> Just looking for some clarification on their warranty statement.
>
> Do you know who is making the cells?  Their other packs are APL I
> believe...wondering if they went to Enerland (like Apogee/Tanic/Flight
> Power) did for the higher C cells.
>
> Chad
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Grow Pattern <pattern4u at comcast.net>
> Date: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:26 am
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries
>
>> Earl,
>>         You raise a very interesting point, What is sponsored?
>>
>> I used to think it was either that you got paid to fly by a
>> manufacturer/supplier/business, or that you got your equipment
>> free. But
>> what if, for example, you got a discount on your OS 1.40 EFI ,or
>> free fuel
>> etc. Or another would be that you bought and built a plane but
>> your
>> batteries were post gratis.
>>
>> This could be harder to define than a pattern snap-roll. Hmmmm?
>>
>> To be clear to the potentially-paranoid-pattern-people",  I am
>> interested
>> for my own edification. (No hidden agenda). I do get asked my
>> opinion on
>> certain subjects and when I am not sure, I ask for my opinion :-)
>>
>> I would also add that many of the responses to the electric issues
>> that I
>> have raised have given me a much better and more balanced view
>> than the one
>> I had a few months ago.
>>
>> So, thanks in advance,
>>
>> Eric.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Earl Haury" <ehaury at houston.rr.com>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries
>>
>>
>> > Stuart
>> >
>> > I'm using the first 4 packs sold. I've 48 cycles on one set 18
>> on the
>> > other.
>> > So far they've been fine, very little (if any) balancing
>> activity. Don't
>> > have any idea what the cycle life will be - only time will tell.
>> As the
>> > weather improves, opportunity for more flying will accelerate cycle
>> > accumulation a bunch. I hope that there's no need to exercise their
>> > warranty, but it's a nice feature.
>> >
>> > Just so there's no misunderstanding - I gathered flight data to
>> help
>> > Falcon
>> > define the pack parameters and received a bit of a discount
>> (that local
>> > sales tax mitigated) for that work. Don't know if that's considered
>> > "sponsored", but I'm using them because they work and Falcon
>> provides> excellent service. (I understand that they had some
>> website problems
>> > recently, if anyone has problems with it - a phone call will work.)
>> >
>> > Earl
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Stuart Chale" <schale at optonline.net>
>> > To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:32 AM
>> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries
>> >
>> >
>> >> Is anyone using the Falcon F3A cells advertised in the K-
>> Factor?  Is
>> >> there
>> >> any track record behind them?
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Stuart
>> >>
>> >>
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