[NSRCA-discussion] Masters 07-08 schedule

Ken Velez kvelez at comcast.net
Thu Mar 23 20:06:48 AKST 2006


Two point (2/2pt) roll - slow roll reversed. I was thinking the wrong manouver. Stand corrected

Ken
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Dunnaway 
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  Here's the description and downgrades on the proposal.

  Two point (2/2pt) roll - slow roll reversed.  Model performs a two point (2/2pt) roll, immediately performs a slow roll in the opposite direction.  See descriptions of two point roll and slow roll for requirements and downgrades for all elements except centering.  Roll rates need not be the same for the two point (2/2pt) and the slow roll.



  Downgrades:

    1.. Centering. The center of the maneuver is determined as the middle of combined roll elements.  Center is determined by the midpoint between the start of the two point (2/2pt) roll and finish of the slow roll. 
    2.. Roll reversal not immediate 


  Joe




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  arch
   You may be right,but I haven't seen a description yet,and don't know if it exists.
  Troy  Help!!!

  Jim Ivey
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    From: Arch Stafford 
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    Wouldn't this maneuver be similar to the 4/8, slow roll opposite in FAI.  Where there wasn't a defined center.  You had to look at the overall maneuver and determine center based on that.  If you do a VERY slow slow roll, you would have to start the 2/2 very early.

     

    Arch

     

     


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    Matt

     That manouver is 2/2pt roll and slow roll opposite. Having said that where is center? Shouldn't it be just before slow roll opposite?

     

    Jim Ivey

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      It looks like it should be the middle of inverted flight. That is if I read the maneuver correctly. Same as for maneuver #4 except for that one, it would be upright flight

       

      Matt 


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      From: Mike Hester <kerlock at comcast.net>
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      Sent: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:32:36 -0500
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      Thanks a bunch, that looks like a fun pattern! I had it a long time ago, but lost it in my latest computer crash.

       

      Hrrmmm...I guess I'll save the discussion for later.......like where to center the 2/2-slow roll rev.....

       

      -Mike

       

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        From: Joe Dunnaway 

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        Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:47 PM

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        Hey Mike,

        All the proposals are listed here....  

        http://www.modelaircraft.org/Comp/2007Proposals/RCAerobaticspattern.htm

        The New Masters Schedule proposal is RCA-07-19.  The final vote will be in June.

         

        You may have to login to the AMA Website to pull this up.

         

        Here's the list without the maneuver descriptions.

        404 Masters

        1. Takeoff Sequence (U)                                                                                  K=1

        2. Reverse Cuban 8, 4/8pt.  Roll first, 2/2pt Roll second, exit Inverted (U)         K=4

        3. Stall Turn with ½ rolls up and down, Exit Inverted                                         K=2

        4. Two 2/4pt Rolls Reversed Inverted to Inverted (D)                                       K=4

        5. Humpty Bump (push, pull, pull), full roll up                                                    K=3

        6. Figure M with ¾ Rolls (U)                                                                            K=5

        7. Top Hat 3/4pt Roll up, ¼ Roll Down                                                            K=2

        8. Triangle Snap Loop (D)                                                                                K=4

        9. Half Square Loop, 2/4pt Roll up                                                                   K=2

        10. Reverse Golf Ball from top, with ½ Rolls (U)                                               K=4

        11. Split S with 2/4pt roll (2/4pt roll, ½ Inside Loop)                                         K=2

        12. Slow Roll (D)                                                                                             K=3

        13. Half Cuban 8, 2/2pt down, Exit Inverted                                                     K=2

        14. Six Sided Outside Loop, exit Inverted (U)                                                   K=4

        15. Humpty Bump w/Options, Exit Inverted                                                      K=3

        16. Square Horizontal Eight, exit Inverted (D)                                                   K=5

        17. Half Square loop, 2/2pt Roll up                                                                   K=2

        18. 45 degree down, 1 ½ positive snap roll, exit Inverted (U)                            K=3

        19. Stall Turn, Full Roll up, 2/4pt Roll down                                                      K=2

        20. Two Point roll, Slow Roll Reversed (D)                                                      K=4

        21. Immelman Turn                                                                                           K=2

        22. 2-1/2 spin, half roll exit (U)                                                                         K=3

        23. Landing Sequence                                                                                      K=1

                                                                                                                    Total    K=67

         

         

         Hope this helps.

        Joe Dunnaway

         

         


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        From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hester
        Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:38 PM
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        So where can I find the proposed masters schedule for 07? I know it was in a copy of the K Factor a while back, but after my computer crashed around new years I lost everything.

         

        So if someone has the manuever descriptions, I'd be grateful.

         

        Also when is it scheduled to be voted on by the contest board, or has it already happened?

         

        Thanks,

        -Mike


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