[NSRCA-discussion] more stuff - notching the throttle stick....

[Jim Woodward]

HI Mike,

Good comments on a tough topic to describe.  A wide-body is definitely more
sensitive to rudder trim and usage than past planes.  On maneuver this is
evident is  during upline point rolls the nose will always want to lean into
the wind.  It's really evident in cross winds. Knowing your particular plane
means you can anticipate this and have a smidgen of rudder already in as you
are stopping for the point - then it looks like a laser straight upline.
Speed has a huge affect on this too.

Jim W.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hester
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:26 PM
To: NSRCA Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] more stuff - notching the throttle stick....

On a really wide body plane in even the slightest crosswind, there's a fine 
line between letting the plane set into the wind naturally or leaning on the

rudder. This all changes according to the strength of the crosswind and the 
speed you fly, not to mention the design itself. Like if you have a vertical

with rolling segments, if the wind is pushing out, you already know to lead 
the rudder SLIGHTLY to hold the line instead of chase it. It's much easier 
to slightly correct all the way through a manuever than it is to wait until 
it goes off course and then stab the rudder and pray the judges weren't 
looking.

If you're really connected to the plane and in practice, it comes fairly 
naturally (hopefully). So that was what I meant. Maybe it's just me that has

this problem, don't know. But that left stick is the first thing to go, and 
the last to come back for me. A well trimmed plane minimizes this, and one 
that doesn't roll right or is out of trim....you can't chase it enough to 
keep it straight everywhere.

I hope that made sense, I know I didn't word it exactly like I meant it.

Dang I need to let Dave handle this one, I'm still learning it myself!

-Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Funk" <deanfunk1 at yahoo.com>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] more stuff - notching the throttle stick....


> Mike-
>
> what do you mean by "lead my rudder correction"
>
> sorry I am in sponge mode..... : )
>
> I have learned more this afternoon than I would if I
> burned gallons....
>
>
>
>
> --- Mike Hester <kerlock at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Why, do you resemble that remark? =) LOL
>>
>> Don't feel bad, if I don't fly for a week or so, I
>> have that same problem,
>> and it takes 3 days of practice to get it
>> back....and I don't lead my rudder
>> correction very well either. Wait, I'm about to go
>> to the Nats, I better
>> hush now!!!!!
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <jonlowe at aol.com>
>> To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] more stuff -
>> notching the throttle stick....
>>
>>
>> > Ahem...
>> >
>> > Are you implying something?!
>> >
>> > Jon Lowe
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Mike Hester <kerlock at comcast.net>
>> > To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> > Sent: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:41:55 -0400
>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] more stuff -
>> notching the throttle
>> > stick....
>> >
>> > Notching the throttle is an old trick, but not too
>> sure I'd do that.
>> > It's up
>> > to you of course, but I've seen some people that
>> did it have some
>> > problems
>> > down the road. Your call of course.
>> >
>> > And the only reason I mentioned it is I've seen
>> you fly many times =)
>> > Along
>> > with another intermediate flyer that is only
>> lacking that last key to
>> > getting almost solid 9s. Throttle management seems
>> to be easily as
>> > difficult
>> > as learning the rudder for sportsman and
>> intermediate flyers. Even some
>> > advanced. hard to fly masters if you don't have
>> that one pegged
>> > though...or
>> > rather hard to score well, and hard to keep a
>> plane in one piece.
>> >
>> > And yes, this list does indeed rock!
>> >
>> > -Mike
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Dean Funk" <deanfunk1 at yahoo.com>
>> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
>> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:35 PM
>> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] more stuff - notching
>> the throttle stick....
>> >
>> >
>> >> Mike also points out something else I am working
>> on,
>> >> throttle maintenance -
>> >>
>> >> Until I train my left thumb better in two axis. I
>> >> think it will help to notch the throttle and
>> adjust
>> >> the curve for the perfect cruise speed.
>> >>
>> >> Is there any tricks to notching the throttle
>> lever?
>> >>
>> >> anything special here - I got to get it right the
>> >> first try.... : )
>> >>
>> >> thanks again in adavance.....
>> >>
>> >> ps. did I say this list ROCKS!!!!
>> >>
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