[NSRCA-discussion] more sportsmans set up questions....
Bill Glaze
billglaze at triad.rr.com
Wed Jun 14 13:02:32 AKDT 2006
Dean, here are the numbers as suggested by Piedmont:
Elevator-- +/- 3/8"
Aileron-- +/- 1/2"
Rudder--Maximum possible travel
HTH
Bill Glaze
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Funk" <deanfunk1 at yahoo.com>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] more sportsmans set up questions....
> Hi Bill,
>
> I got my focus 2nd or 3rd hand and don't have the
> manual. When I got the plane I had to rebuild about
> 90% of it as it was pretty much falling apart, I
> installed a new radio system and servos so I don't
> even know if I am in the ballpark....
>
> if you can send me the Piedmonts suggested throws that
> would be a great place to start!
>
> thanks, Dean
>
>
>
> --- Bill Glaze <billglaze at triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Dean:
>> not that anybody asked me, but............... I too
>> hate to run out of
>> control throw and be against the stop in a routine
>> maneuver. You have
>> nowhere to go if anything gets hairy during the
>> maneuver; and, as usual,
>> your only ally is the space between you and the
>> ground. Plus, as has been
>> pointed out, sometimes it is necessary to modify the
>> particular maneuver to
>> take care of unforeseen circumstances, and extra
>> throw on a surface is one
>> of the easier ways of doing so.
>> Do you happen to have the construction manual? I
>> can possibly dig mine out
>> and come up with Piedmont's figures for control
>> throw. They're pretty
>> accurate and, after seasoning to taste, seem to work
>> well. (Or did somebody
>> else already to that?) As always, it's your call.
>>
>> Bill Glaze
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dean Funk" <deanfunk1 at yahoo.com>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
>> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] more sportsmans set
>> up questions....
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Rick and all,
>> >
>> > thanks for the great replies, this forum is a
>> great
>> > resource...
>> >
>> > I am no where near using even 50% of my elevator
>> throw
>> > even on low rates. I'll be working on this over
>> the
>> > weekend.
>> >
>> > Rick if you have the time it would be great to get
>> you
>> > throws in degrees.
>> >
>> > Dean
>> >
>> >
>> > --- Rick Rosinski <rickrosinski at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dean,
>> >>
>> >> I've started flying a Focus II in sportsman
>> myself
>> >> this year and I remember
>> >> trying a few different things as far as control
>> >> throws went over the winter.
>> >>
>> >> For the elevator I had my caller/dad look over my
>> >> shoulder for a sequence
>> >> and watch the amount of elevator throw. I just
>> kept
>> >> adjusting the throw
>> >> until I was using about 80-85% max.
>> >>
>> >> Ailerons were adjusted intil I got a roll rate
>> that
>> >> I liked, and wasn't too
>> >> fast to get a consistant exit from the rolls. I
>> >> found that too much caused
>> >> me to hunt for wings level and actually made it
>> >> harder to hold altitude
>> >> during the rolls.
>> >>
>> >> For the rudder I have two rates. Low is for
>> >> everything except stall turns
>> >> (and then only for the rotation). Low is set to
>> >> give smooth rudder
>> >> corrections without the plane jumping around.
>> High
>> >> is about an inch and a
>> >> half measured at the top of the rudder. I could
>> do
>> >> the stall turn on low
>> >> rate, but I found during calm conditions high is
>> >> much easier. High rate
>> >> really comes in handy when I'm admiring my pretty
>> >> upline, patting myself on
>> >> the back and forget that the plane is bleeding
>> off
>> >> speed and I might want to
>> >> add some rudder.
>> >>
>> >> I hope that helps and I didn't just bore
>> everyone.
>> >> If you're interested
>> >> I'll measure the actual throws.
>> >>
>> >> Rick
>> >>
>> >> <html><DIV> </DIV></html>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >From: Dean Funk <deanfunk1 at yahoo.com>
>> >> >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> >> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> >> >To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> >> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> >> >Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] more sportsmans set
>> up
>> >> questions....
>> >> >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:59:10 -0700 (PDT)
>> >> >
>> >> >more stuff I am thinking about...
>> >> >
>> >> >Would it be a good ideal to set up a flight mode
>> >> with
>> >> >just the minimum elevator throw needed to pull a
>> >> nice
>> >> >big loop, immelman, and split s with full stick
>> >> >movment. I am thinking it might help improve my
>> >> >radiuses and help establish more consistent
>> bottom
>> >> and
>> >> >top lines.
>> >> >
>> >> >then have another flight mode with a lot of
>> rudder
>> >> for
>> >> >that stall turn...
>> >> >
>> >> >I am trying to improve my geometry and feel like
>> I
>> >> >have too much elevator travel, and my rudder
>> >> >corrections seem too abrupt....
>> >> >
>> >> >thanks again all....
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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