[NSRCA-discussion] more sportsmans set up questions....

Wed Jun 14 11:25:43 AKDT 2006

Hi Bill,

I got my focus 2nd or 3rd hand and don't have the
manual. When I got the plane I had to rebuild about
90% of it as it was pretty much falling apart, I
installed a new radio system and servos so I don't
even know if I am in the ballpark....

if you can send me the Piedmonts suggested throws that
would be a great place to start!

thanks, Dean

--- Bill Glaze <billglaze at triad.rr.com> wrote:

> Dean:
> not that anybody asked me, but...............  I too
> hate to run out of 
> control throw and be against the stop in a routine
> maneuver.  You have 
> nowhere to go if anything gets hairy during the
> maneuver; and, as usual, 
> your only ally is the space between you and the
> ground.  Plus, as has been 
> pointed out, sometimes it is necessary to modify the
> particular maneuver to 
> take care of unforeseen circumstances, and extra
> throw on a surface is one 
> of the easier ways of doing so.
> Do you happen to have the construction manual?  I
> can possibly dig mine out 
> and come up with Piedmont's figures for control
> throw.  They're pretty 
> accurate and, after seasoning to taste, seem to work
> well. (Or did somebody 
> else already to that?) As always, it's your call.
> 
> Bill Glaze
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dean Funk" <deanfunk1 at yahoo.com>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] more sportsmans set
> up questions....
> 
> 
> >
> > Rick  and all,
> >
> > thanks for the great replies, this forum is a
> great
> > resource...
> >
> > I am no where near using even 50% of my elevator
> throw
> > even on low rates. I'll be working on this over
> the
> > weekend.
> >
> > Rick if you have the time it would be great to get
> you
> > throws in degrees.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >
> > --- Rick Rosinski <rickrosinski at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Dean,
> >>
> >> I've started flying a Focus II in sportsman
> myself
> >> this year and I remember
> >> trying a few different things as far as control
> >> throws went over the winter.
> >>
> >> For the elevator I had my caller/dad look over my
> >> shoulder for a sequence
> >> and watch the amount of elevator throw.  I just
> kept
> >> adjusting the throw
> >> until I was using about 80-85% max.
> >>
> >> Ailerons were adjusted intil I got a roll rate
> that
> >> I liked, and wasn't too
> >> fast to get a consistant exit from the rolls.  I
> >> found that too much caused
> >> me to hunt for wings level and actually made it
> >> harder to hold altitude
> >> during the rolls.
> >>
> >> For the rudder I have two rates.  Low is for
> >> everything except stall turns
> >> (and then only for the rotation).  Low is set to
> >> give smooth rudder
> >> corrections without the plane jumping around. 
> High
> >> is about an inch and a
> >> half measured at the top of the rudder.  I could
> do
> >> the stall turn on low
> >> rate, but I found during calm conditions high is
> >> much easier.  High rate
> >> really comes in handy when I'm admiring my pretty
> >> upline, patting myself on
> >> the back and forget that the plane is bleeding
> off
> >> speed and I might want to
> >> add some rudder.
> >>
> >> I hope that helps and I didn't just bore
> everyone.
> >> If you're interested
> >> I'll measure the actual throws.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> <html><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></html>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: Dean Funk <deanfunk1 at yahoo.com>
> >> >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
> >> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >> >To: NSRCA Mailing List
> >> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >> >Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] more sportsmans set
> up
> >> questions....
> >> >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:59:10 -0700 (PDT)
> >> >
> >> >more stuff I am thinking about...
> >> >
> >> >Would it be a good ideal to set up a flight mode
> >> with
> >> >just the minimum elevator throw needed to pull a
> >> nice
> >> >big loop, immelman, and split s with full stick
> >> >movment. I am thinking it might help improve my
> >> >radiuses and help establish more consistent
> bottom
> >> and
> >> >top lines.
> >> >
> >> >then have another flight mode with a lot of
> rudder
> >> for
> >> >that stall turn...
> >> >
> >> >I am trying to improve my geometry and feel like
> I
> >> >have too much elevator travel, and my rudder
> >> >corrections seem too abrupt....
> >> >
> >> >thanks again all....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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