[NSRCA-discussion] more sportsmans set up questions....

Wed Jun 14 11:14:09 AKDT 2006

Dean:
not that anybody asked me, but...............  I too hate to run out of 
control throw and be against the stop in a routine maneuver.  You have 
nowhere to go if anything gets hairy during the maneuver; and, as usual, 
your only ally is the space between you and the ground.  Plus, as has been 
pointed out, sometimes it is necessary to modify the particular maneuver to 
take care of unforeseen circumstances, and extra throw on a surface is one 
of the easier ways of doing so.
Do you happen to have the construction manual?  I can possibly dig mine out 
and come up with Piedmont's figures for control throw.  They're pretty 
accurate and, after seasoning to taste, seem to work well. (Or did somebody 
else already to that?) As always, it's your call.

Bill Glaze
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Funk" <deanfunk1 at yahoo.com>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] more sportsmans set up questions....

>
> Rick  and all,
>
> thanks for the great replies, this forum is a great
> resource...
>
> I am no where near using even 50% of my elevator throw
> even on low rates. I'll be working on this over the
> weekend.
>
> Rick if you have the time it would be great to get you
> throws in degrees.
>
> Dean
>
>
> --- Rick Rosinski <rickrosinski at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dean,
>>
>> I've started flying a Focus II in sportsman myself
>> this year and I remember
>> trying a few different things as far as control
>> throws went over the winter.
>>
>> For the elevator I had my caller/dad look over my
>> shoulder for a sequence
>> and watch the amount of elevator throw.  I just kept
>> adjusting the throw
>> until I was using about 80-85% max.
>>
>> Ailerons were adjusted intil I got a roll rate that
>> I liked, and wasn't too
>> fast to get a consistant exit from the rolls.  I
>> found that too much caused
>> me to hunt for wings level and actually made it
>> harder to hold altitude
>> during the rolls.
>>
>> For the rudder I have two rates.  Low is for
>> everything except stall turns
>> (and then only for the rotation).  Low is set to
>> give smooth rudder
>> corrections without the plane jumping around.  High
>> is about an inch and a
>> half measured at the top of the rudder.  I could do
>> the stall turn on low
>> rate, but I found during calm conditions high is
>> much easier.  High rate
>> really comes in handy when I'm admiring my pretty
>> upline, patting myself on
>> the back and forget that the plane is bleeding off
>> speed and I might want to
>> add some rudder.
>>
>> I hope that helps and I didn't just bore everyone.
>> If you're interested
>> I'll measure the actual throws.
>>
>> Rick
>>
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>>
>>
>> >From: Dean Funk <deanfunk1 at yahoo.com>
>> >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> >To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> >Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] more sportsmans set up
>> questions....
>> >Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:59:10 -0700 (PDT)
>> >
>> >more stuff I am thinking about...
>> >
>> >Would it be a good ideal to set up a flight mode
>> with
>> >just the minimum elevator throw needed to pull a
>> nice
>> >big loop, immelman, and split s with full stick
>> >movment. I am thinking it might help improve my
>> >radiuses and help establish more consistent bottom
>> and
>> >top lines.
>> >
>> >then have another flight mode with a lot of rudder
>> for
>> >that stall turn...
>> >
>> >I am trying to improve my geometry and feel like I
>> >have too much elevator travel, and my rudder
>> >corrections seem too abrupt....
>> >
>> >thanks again all....
>> >
>> >
>> >
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