[NSRCA-discussion] Carbon fiber shortage

[Richard Strickland]

A thought on a hot day-supposed to be 104 F today in KC.  Has anyone done a
study on how much fuel gets injected into the upper atmosphere by jets?   I
know there are PIPELINE(S!) of the stuff going from the Gulf coast to the
East coast and elsewhere.  You certainly hear about pollution from any kind
of ground vehicle-but absolutely nuthin' about airline, GA, and military
transport.  It would seem that a little spread out in the upper atmosphere
would have a great deal more effect than a lot spread closer to the ground.
I AM feeling a little guilty driving a hog, however.  I'm thinking 'sacred
cow' information suppression-we might have to truly get our act together on
high-speed mass transit.

Off soapbox--wish I was at the NATS,

Richard

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Tom

Just because those "Road Warrior" movies were film in Australia does not
mean they are true!  Besides, I love $3/gallon gasoline.

1. People use less
2. Alternatives become cost effective
3. Ethanol will replace Gasoline and we can save oil to make CF!

Gray

Hey Gray,

I Think the A380 cant get to Oz fast enough. I think on these long haul
flight routes it will be a good thing-HOWEVER-personally I'm not too keen to
get on anything made by Airbus. I shudder every time I have to get on
one.They seem to have a habit of falling out of the sky. Isn't there some
kind of joke amongst Airbus pilots? Something along the lines of-'why did it
do that?'

I believe Australia is also involved with the JSF.  Down here, there has
been some political debate over it lately, along the lines of, overpriced,
behind schedule and yesterdays technology.....all good stuff really, cause
when we run out of oil shortly, no one will be able to afford air travel or
fill their car with gasoline. I doubt the JSF will be much good to anyone
either sitting on the tarmac ( unless its powered by anti-matter and
Dilithium crystals <VBG>)

I think our dependence on the middle east because of its oil will affect us
all more than we think. Isn't carbon fibre manufacture dependant on oil as
well? How do they heat those furnaces?

Luckily most of my modelling endeavours will remain  in mostly balsa, and
maybe the remaining rolls of carbon in my workshop may become  worthwhile
'stock' <G>  AND even better, maybe my unbuilt PL kits will appreciate in
'value' after all........hehehehehehehe...I wished ..sigh.

Tom



Gray Fowler
Senior Principal Chemical Engineer
Radome and Composites Engineering
Raytheon
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