[NSRCA-discussion] paint

Stuart Chale schale at optonline.net
Wed Jul 12 12:03:13 AKDT 2006


You have obviously received several warnings, appropriately so, from this
list.  Imron should not be the first paint that you spray if you have never
sprayed before.  (I wouldn't spray it all without proper respiratory
protection)  There are safer paints to apply with similar qualities.  The
warnings that you have been given are correct.  Imron gives off more
polyisocyanates than most other paints.  These are dangerous and can cause
respiratory trouble.  I am an ER doc and have seen it several times most
often from "hobby" type painters.

 

Imron when sprayed under safe conditions is an excellent paint though.   It
is highly fuel proof and has an excellent gloss.

 

Good luck with your choice,

Stuart Chale

 

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I am getting ready to spray imron.  I have never painted anything.  I told
the paint shop what I was using it for and they said I didn't need a clear
and I didn't get any reducer.  What type of reducer and how much should I
use for this type of paint.  Also why do you use clear over a single stage
paint.  

 

Tim

 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Gray E Fowler
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Robert 

Humidity is not a problem, dew point is. Since it is warm now in most places
this should not be a problem.  The amount of reducer called out by the paint
manufacturer has two purposes, 

1. Reduce the viscosity so a standard paint gun can atomize 
2. Only reduce the viscosity barely enough as to meet EPA volatile organic
emmision requirements 

The PPG "reducer" amounts allow the car painting guy to seriously "lay it
on" with out fear of runs or overspray. Unfortunately laying it on an
airplane increases weight. A thicker clear coat will not really protect your
plane better than a thinner coat, so it is just weight. Adding more reducer
(its really a blend of different solvents)  will allow for thinner coats,
less overspray, but can increase runs. 

The reducer like I mentioned is a blend of solvents, and all of this 100%
evaporates and has nothing to do with the urethane chemical reaction that
cures the clearcoat. You can add as much reducer as you want without
reprisal...except from the EPA, which I doubt will go after an individual
pattern guy...but I could be wrong.  So once you are comfortable with
increasing your local pollution level...add that 200% reducer!!! 



Gray Fowler
Senior Principal Chemical Engineer
Radome and Composites Engineering
Raytheon 




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Couple of painting questions.

Weathers turned to crap around here again.  How much humidity is to humid to

paint?

I've been reading where the jet guys are reducing they're clear coat to a 
200% ratio.  They think it's great.  Anybody tried this? 


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