[NSRCA-discussion] Toyota

[Larry N Lisa]

Interesting how the US auto industry lowered their prices to get rid 
of excess inventory to beat their foreign competitors in the sales 
game for 2005 model year. So now everyone who purchased a vehicle at 
the so called "employee discount" gets the benifit of all the other US 
tax payers to bail out the same company from bankrupcy 
proceedings "again" because of piss poor management in the first 
place. It's the american way...

> 
>  I'm with you Dean. I prefer Fords. I have had better luck with my 
US cars than my 91 Toyota Previa, and 2 Honda's. I now have a 2003 
Windstar that I love and a 97 Taurus that has been extremly reliable. 
One other factor is pricing with all the incentives I bought a pretty 
well equiped Windstar for $21,500 in 2003. That is money that equates 
to a real savings over the Honda or the Toyota which sell at a premium 
price. I for one can't justify the price difference. I hope people 
keep hating American cars so I can continue to get them cheap. Thanks 
to all who are helping me out. Mike
> 
> Dean Pappas <d.pappas at kodeos.com> wrote:      You know, it's a 
terrible shame that after taking a deserved heck of a beating for 
truly poor reliability/design back in the seventies,
>   Detroit has honest-to-for-really turned their act around ... and 
they don't get credit for it!
>   My Grand Caravan with the Stow n'Go seats is a marvellously 
practical vehicle.
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>   Dean Pappas 
> Sr. Design Engineer 
> Kodeos Communications 
> 111 Corporate Blvd. 
> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
> (908) 222-7817 phone 
> (908) 222-2392 fax 
> d.pappas at kodeos.com 
>     -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-
discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Rick Wallace
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:11 AM
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Toyota
> 
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>     Not sure it works to say that 'all profits go to Japan' - at 
one  point, GM owned 1% of Toyota. I just checked the Toyota corp's 
stock symbol- there's a family of symbols shown - can't easily trace 
WHERE the ownership is / where the profits go. 
>   When I did the 'buy a van' analysis in 2003 major factors were: 
> -- The need to handle 36000 miles a year.
> -- Reliability
> -- Whether my van would outlive the payment stream. I wasn't / am 
not confident that most 'US makes' will either do that.
> -- Reputable dealer / support network.  
>   Based on the above factors, (Consumer Reports information and 
personal experience with FMC/ Chrysler family / Gm dealers in the NJ 
area) my choice narrowed  quickly to Honda and Toyota. 
>   Your mileage may vary; my search led me to a van that may not be 
the BEST choice, but it's been good enough so far. 
>   -Rick 
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>   From: DaveL322 at comcast.net
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> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:40:15 +0000
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>   Ideally, for the US, it would be better to have the profits stay 
here as well.
>    
>   Nonetheless, the workers get to stay here, the workers salaries 
stay here, taxes stay here, and Toyota has invested profits in the US 
building the infrastructure to manufacture in the US.
>    
>   Far better for the US than the only piece being point of sale.  
Quite possibly better for the US than many US firms which design and 
manufacture overseas, and then import back to the US for point of sale.
>    
>   Regards,
>    
>   Dave
>    
>   -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Gerald Gallagher" <ggall at bellsouth.net> 
>    Toyota, built in USA BUT, all Profits go to Japan. Something to 
think about?
>    
>     Jerry Gallagher
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>   From: "Gerald Gallagher" <ggall at bellsouth.net>
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> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:34:25 +0000
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