[NSRCA-discussion] Toyota

[mike mueller]

 I'm with you Dean. I prefer Fords. I have had better luck with my US cars than my 91 Toyota Previa, and 2 Honda's. I now have a 2003 Windstar that I love and a 97 Taurus that has been extremly reliable. One other factor is pricing with all the incentives I bought a pretty well equiped Windstar for $21,500 in 2003. That is money that equates to a real savings over the Honda or the Toyota which sell at a premium price. I for one can't justify the price difference. I hope people keep hating American cars so I can continue to get them cheap. Thanks to all who are helping me out. Mike

Dean Pappas <d.pappas at kodeos.com> wrote:      You know, it's a terrible shame that after taking a deserved heck of a beating for truly poor reliability/design back in the seventies,
  Detroit has honest-to-for-really turned their act around ... and they don't get credit for it!
  My Grand Caravan with the Stow n'Go seats is a marvellously practical vehicle.
   
   
  Dean Pappas 
Sr. Design Engineer 
Kodeos Communications 
111 Corporate Blvd. 
South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
(908) 222-7817 phone 
(908) 222-2392 fax 
d.pappas at kodeos.com 
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Rick Wallace
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Toyota


    Not sure it works to say that 'all profits go to Japan' - at one  point, GM owned 1% of Toyota. I just checked the Toyota corp's stock symbol- there's a family of symbols shown - can't easily trace WHERE the ownership is / where the profits go. 
  When I did the 'buy a van' analysis in 2003 major factors were: 
-- The need to handle 36000 miles a year.
-- Reliability
-- Whether my van would outlive the payment stream. I wasn't / am not confident that most 'US makes' will either do that.
-- Reputable dealer / support network.  
  Based on the above factors, (Consumer Reports information and personal experience with FMC/ Chrysler family / Gm dealers in the NJ area) my choice narrowed  quickly to Honda and Toyota. 
  Your mileage may vary; my search led me to a van that may not be the BEST choice, but it's been good enough so far. 
  -Rick 


    
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:40:15 +0000

  Ideally, for the US, it would be better to have the profits stay here as well.
   
  Nonetheless, the workers get to stay here, the workers salaries stay here, taxes stay here, and Toyota has invested profits in the US building the infrastructure to manufacture in the US.
   
  Far better for the US than the only piece being point of sale.  Quite possibly better for the US than many US firms which design and manufacture overseas, and then import back to the US for point of sale.
   
  Regards,
   
  Dave
   
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From: "Gerald Gallagher" <ggall at bellsouth.net> 
   Toyota, built in USA BUT, all Profits go to Japan. Something to think about?
   
    Jerry Gallagher
   

   
  
  

    
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:34:25 +0000
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