<DIV id=RTEContent> I'm with you Dean. I prefer Fords. I have had better luck with my US cars than my 91 Toyota Previa, and 2 Honda's. I now have a 2003 Windstar that I love and a 97 Taurus that has been extremly reliable. One other factor is pricing with all the incentives I bought a pretty well equiped Windstar for $21,500 in 2003. That is money that equates to a real savings over the Honda or the Toyota which sell at a premium price. I for one can't justify the price difference. I hope people keep hating American cars so I can continue to get them cheap. Thanks to all who are helping me out. Mike<BR><BR><B><I>Dean Pappas <d.pappas@kodeos.com></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR> <DIV><SPAN class=281214316-25012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You know, it's a terrible shame that after taking a deserved heck of a beating for
truly poor reliability/design back in the seventies,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=281214316-25012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Detroit has honest-to-for-really turned their act around ... and they don't get credit for it!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=281214316-25012006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>My Grand Caravan with the Stow n'Go seats is a marvellously practical vehicle.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=281214316-25012006></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <div><FONT face="Times New Roman">Dean Pappas</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">Sr. Design Engineer</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">Kodeos Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">111 Corporate Blvd.</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">South Plainfield, N.J. 07080</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-7817 phone</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman">(908) 222-2392 fax</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New
Roman">d.pappas@kodeos.com</FONT> </div> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Rick Wallace<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:11 AM<BR><B>To:</B> nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Toyota<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV> <div>Not sure it works to say that 'all profits go to Japan' - at one point, GM owned 1% of Toyota. I just checked the Toyota corp's stock symbol- there's a family of symbols shown - can't easily trace WHERE the ownership is / where the profits go. </div> <div>When I did the 'buy a van' analysis in 2003 major factors were: <BR>-- The need to handle 36000 miles a year.<BR>-- Reliability<BR>-- Whether my van would outlive the payment stream. I wasn't / am not confident that
most 'US makes' will either do that.<BR>-- Reputable dealer / support network. </div> <div>Based on the above factors, (Consumer Reports information and personal experience with FMC/ Chrysler family / Gm dealers in the NJ area) my choice narrowed quickly to Honda and Toyota. </div> <div>Your mileage may vary; my search led me to a van that may not be the BEST choice, but it's been good enough so far. </div> <div>-Rick <BR><BR></div> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #a0c6e5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11px; FONT-FAMILY: tahoma,sans-serif"> <HR color=#a0c6e5 SIZE=1> From: <I>DaveL322@comcast.net</I><BR>Reply-To: <I>NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></I><BR>To: <I>NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Toyota</I><BR>Date: <I>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:40:15 +0000</I><BR><BR> <DIV>Ideally, for the US, it would be better to have
the profits stay here as well.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Nonetheless, the workers get to stay here, the workers salaries stay here, taxes stay here, and Toyota has invested profits in the US building the infrastructure to manufacture in the US.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Far better for the US than the only piece being point of sale. Quite possibly better for the US than many US firms which design and manufacture overseas, and then import back to the US for point of sale.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dave</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Gerald Gallagher" <ggall@bellsouth.net> <BR> <DIV><SPAN class=043342915-25012006><FONT size=2> Toyota, built in USA BUT, all Profits go to Japan. Something to think about?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <div
class=MsoAutoSig>Jerry Gallagher</div> <div class=MsoAutoSig> </div></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <div></div> <div></div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <div> <HR color=#a0c6e5 SIZE=1> From: <I>"Gerald Gallagher" <ggall@bellsouth.net></I><BR>To: <I>"NSRCA Mailing List" <discussion@nsrca.org></I><BR>Subject: <I>[NSRCA-discussion] Toyota</I><BR>Date: <I>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:34:25 +0000</I><BR>>_______________________________________________<BR>>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR> <div> <div> <div>>_______________________________________________<BR>>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR> <div></FONT></div></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion mailing
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