[NSRCA-discussion] glow plug wages???

Gray E Fowler gfowler at raytheon.com
Wed Jan 11 05:24:57 AKST 2006


That's my point.......as an explanation to Tom, the whole Aussie accent is 
a put on... Texans on the other hand cannot help it-they call me 
Yankee....Buddy just secretly thinks it, and he knows Lance is a yankee.
So if you ever meet me Tom, you would never know it from my 
accent....Texans call me Yankee, New Jersey dudes absolutely know I am not 
from there.



Gray Fowler
Principal Chemical Engineer
Composites Engineering



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What accent? We don't have an accent-you guys do!!
 
Jerry Voth
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Geeze...thats alot of questions for only 20 million people....I will try 
to answer, but I must warn you that my answers may be tainted by my 
"unbiased" opinion. 
Before I continue, I must say that I am convinced that if an Aussie were 
to be suddenly awoken in the middle of the night, and asked a question, he 
would speak in an accent similar to that of an American from 
KANSAS.......Is this true? 

We have a "miminum" wage..that I think is about $5.50/hour. Very few earn 
this because you really cannot survive on it. Even full time McDonalds 
employees and illegal aliens make more, but part time kids etc. make it. 
In 1977 I washed dishes in High School at $2.10/hour and fuel cost 
$7.50/gallon. Today fuel cost $12/gallon (sport)-I can now better afford 
fuel! 

Reality is most low income jobs are filled by non Americans because 
Americans do not want those jobs.  Clothes, shoes, and RC radios cannot be 
assembled in the USA because companies cannot compete paying a unionized 
high school graduate with 15 years experience $18/hr plus medical 
benefits, when they can ship it to (INSERT COUNTRY OF PREFERENCE HERE) for 
$5 day plus a tube of toothpaste. 

There is a "welfare" program (no job = government money) that has been 
notoriously screwed up for years, and has undergone significant changes of 
which I am not sure of other than it is probably still screwed up. 

If you get layed off (sacked) then you can collect "unemployment benefits" 
which is a limited insurance program, which I think is maxed at at 
$250/week. 

Speaking of screwed up, we have a "Social Security" program to allow 
people to retire, but only a fool my age would depend on this as it is 
about to go inverted when you have 5 retired people supported by 1 active 
worker.  So to "fix" this problem they made the retirement age 67 in hopes 
all those Baby-Boomer Hippies will succumb to an early LSD induced death 
to reduce pay-outs. 

Good wage in the US???  Depends on who you ask. Many make it on 
$35,000/year but I do not know how. I would guess good to be 
$50-60,000/year. 
Taxes, social security etc eats of about 25-28% of your income...some 
states more due to state tax (not in Texas).   
People who make $80-100,000 can live very comfortably, but in the American 
way...it is never enough as is evident by the USA ridiculous credit card 
debt. Those who make $100K/year have the HIGHEST Credit card debt, many 
times $20-30K at 18% interest. 

BUT....Life in the USA is good.....and I can say with impunity that we 
have the best SMART WEAPONS in the world so I advise you guys to remain 
our friends.... 



Gray Fowler
Principal Chemical Engineer
Composites Engineering 


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Not being an economist, I'm not sure how all this works. But in Australia, 
I believe we have quite a reasonable standard of living. We have ( in 
comparison) a tiny manufacturing base. But I think our economy is largely 
resource driven ( mining, agriculture etc). 
There are only 20 million of us-so that's not a huge economy! There are 
more of you guys in one city!!!!!! 
  
Nearly everything here is imported-from wherever we can get it. We usually 
export the raw materials and then buy back the 
product...()&*(&*&^%^%$@!!@# 
  
We wood chip the trees so that the Japanese can turn it into paper for 
us-crazy! 
  
As far as the modelling goes we pay premium dollar for everything. A lot 
of the local hobby shops are simply held to ransom by some 
importers/distributors- but everyone needs to make a buck I guess. You 
want it-you pay! 
  
Which leads me to a question I have had for a long time ( and one the boys 
here in my workshop often ponder about). What is considered a good average 
wage in the U.S these days?? Are there minimum conditions for you guys? 
  
We have a reasonable welfare system too, which I guess costs us taxpayers 
- but here in Australia I think culturally- there is a minimum ( with 
everything) that we are prepared to put up with. 
  
We call it a 'Fair Go far all' whereas our impression of life in the US is 
'Dog eat Dog where the Dollar rules all'?? Maybe we have been watching too 
much Hollywood???? 
  
Tom 
  
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"Wow...we pay about $15 per OS F.... 
 
You're on fairly good money Gray!!! Not sure how much per kW/H we pay 
though <BG> 
 
Tom" 

Tom-you are closer to Japan than we are! Why the high cost of  glow 
plugs?-almost makes one wanna go electric-just kidding. 




Gray Fowler
Principal Chemical Engineer
Composites Engineering 
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