[NSRCA-discussion] glow plug wages???

Tue Jan 10 15:51:15 AKST 2006

Yeah, what he said. That's pretty much the way it is. Like my Father says:
"America is Free - as long as you can afford it". I heard that Australia is
kind of like the way the USA was before it got so industrialized &
over-populated. Sounds like a great place to go for a long vacation ...

John Pavlick
http://www.idseng.com

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Gray E Fowler
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:45 PM
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Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] glow plug wages???

  Geeze...thats alot of questions for only 20 million people....I will try
to answer, but I must warn you that my answers may be tainted by my
"unbiased" opinion.
  Before I continue, I must say that I am convinced that if an Aussie were
to be suddenly awoken in the middle of the night, and asked a question, he
would speak in an accent similar to that of an American from KANSAS.......Is
this true?

  We have a "miminum" wage..that I think is about $5.50/hour. Very few earn
this because you really cannot survive on it. Even full time McDonalds
employees and illegal aliens make more, but part time kids etc. make it. In
1977 I washed dishes in High School at $2.10/hour and fuel cost
$7.50/gallon. Today fuel cost $12/gallon (sport)-I can now better afford
fuel!

  Reality is most low income jobs are filled by non Americans because
Americans do not want those jobs.  Clothes, shoes, and RC radios cannot be
assembled in the USA because companies cannot compete paying a unionized
high school graduate with 15 years experience $18/hr plus medical benefits,
when they can ship it to (INSERT COUNTRY OF PREFERENCE HERE) for $5 day plus
a tube of toothpaste.

  There is a "welfare" program (no job = government money) that has been
notoriously screwed up for years, and has undergone significant changes of
which I am not sure of other than it is probably still screwed up.

  If you get layed off (sacked) then you can collect "unemployment benefits"
which is a limited insurance program, which I think is maxed at at
$250/week.

  Speaking of screwed up, we have a "Social Security" program to allow
people to retire, but only a fool my age would depend on this as it is about
to go inverted when you have 5 retired people supported by 1 active worker.
So to "fix" this problem they made the retirement age 67 in hopes all those
Baby-Boomer Hippies will succumb to an early LSD induced death to reduce
pay-outs.

  Good wage in the US???  Depends on who you ask. Many make it on
$35,000/year but I do not know how. I would guess good to be
$50-60,000/year.
  Taxes, social security etc eats of about 25-28% of your income...some
states more due to state tax (not in Texas).
  People who make $80-100,000 can live very comfortably, but in the American
way...it is never enough as is evident by the USA ridiculous credit card
debt. Those who make $100K/year have the HIGHEST Credit card debt, many
times $20-30K at 18% interest.

  BUT....Life in the USA is good.....and I can say with impunity that we
have the best SMART WEAPONS in the world so I advise you guys to remain our
friends....

  Gray Fowler
  Principal Chemical Engineer
  Composites Engineering

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  Not being an economist, I'm not sure how all this works. But in Australia,
I believe we have quite a reasonable standard of living. We have ( in
comparison) a tiny manufacturing base. But I think our economy is largely
resource driven ( mining, agriculture etc).
  There are only 20 million of us-so that's not a huge economy! There are
more of you guys in one city!!!!!!

  Nearly everything here is imported-from wherever we can get it. We usually
export the raw materials and then buy back the product...()&*(&*&^%^%$@!!@#

  We wood chip the trees so that the Japanese can turn it into paper for
us-crazy!

  As far as the modelling goes we pay premium dollar for everything. A lot
of the local hobby shops are simply held to ransom by some
importers/distributors- but everyone needs to make a buck I guess. You want
it-you pay!

  Which leads me to a question I have had for a long time ( and one the boys
here in my workshop often ponder about). What is considered a good average
wage in the U.S these days?? Are there minimum conditions for you guys?

  We have a reasonable welfare system too, which I guess costs us
taxpayers - but here in Australia I think culturally- there is a minimum
 with everything) that we are prepared to put up with.

  We call it a 'Fair Go far all' whereas our impression of life in the US is
'Dog eat Dog where the Dollar rules all'?? Maybe we have been watching too
much Hollywood????

  Tom

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Gray E Fowler
  Sent: Wednesday, 11 January 2006 8:43 AM
  To: NSRCA Mailing List
  Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] glow plug wages???

  "Wow...we pay about $15 per OS F....

  You're on fairly good money Gray!!! Not sure how much per kW/H we pay
though <BG>

  Tom"

  Tom-you are closer to Japan than we are! Why the high cost of  glow
plugs?-almost makes one wanna go electric-just kidding.

  Gray Fowler
  Principal Chemical Engineer
  Composites Engineering
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