[NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff

Tue Feb 28 15:45:30 AKST 2006

I know Tommy S in Houston has to be beaming as he reads this.

His wife Penny attends every contest he goes to and calls for him.

She even turned down an offer from me to carry his plane out for her( I was
just trying to be polite to the lady)

My kudos to Penny.   Yeah I'm jealous - I wish I could get my wife to do
that !!

Eddie

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
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On Feb 28, 2006, at 2:37 PM, mike mueller wrote:

Ed Izzo that brings back some great memories. What was his wife's name. 

Louise

She was his caller and always by his side. You don't see that very often
anymore.

Yep. Most female callers are never seen again after they get their 'Mrs'
degree.

Ron

Dean Pappas <d.pappas at kodeos.com> wrote: 

And the late Ed Izzo competed in Pattern with a stand-way-off P-40. He won
with it, too.

Dean Pappas 
Sr. Design Engineer 
Kodeos Communications 
111 Corporate Blvd. 
South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
(908) 222-7817 phone 
(908) 222-2392 fax 
d.pappas at kodeos.com 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
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Hmmmm........ I can remember hearing about Red St. Aubin winning a pattern
contest in LAX with a Corsair (yes, a model of the WW2 airplane) --of
course, I DO have a couple of years on y'all.

Bill Glaze

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From: Mike Hester <mailto:kerlock at comcast.net>  

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Your P-51 fetish is showing again =)

-Mike

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From: Gray E Fowler <mailto:gfowler at raytheon.com>  

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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:47 AM

Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff

I have never flown non turnaround pattern. When I first got in to pattern I
saw all the comments flyin' around about how turnaround kills attendance. To
this day I cannot figure out why the older guys (which if you flew non turn
around you were either very young then or old now) wank so much about this
change. Perhaps the decline of pattern from its heyday has more to do with
with other RC interest than stinkin' turnaround changes. When I was young,
we had 3 TV channnels, and when MASH came on EVERYONE watched, unless Nixon
was giving us a speech, which was on all 3 channels, in that case we were
all screwed.....Would MASH be so popular today competing with 150 other
channels, INCLUDING "The Food Channel????!!!!!" I think not! Learn how to
make a quiche......or MASH. As you can see this is quite a quandary. 

I will say that when I first investigated pattern and found out everyone had
$550 engines instead of my $99 two stroke-I was flabergasted. I still might
be. 

To me turnaround is the coolest and not the problem.....when does this
argument end? I would guess in another 10 years, because at that time all
that flew NON turnaround will be dead or quit due to age. 

When I started Ed Hurt was flying Masters at age 75......He told me alot but
NEVE! R told me that turnaround sucked........ 

Billion Dollar Batteries, Electric gear motors, $650 engines and pristine
"works of art" scare the average sport flyer (by showing/thinking they
cannot do that) much more than turnaround...... 

Scenario #56.....Sport flyer thinking about pattern......Lets see, No
problem with powerplants costing 5-15X of my OS.45, just won't feed the kids
for a week, 300 hours to build and paint a flying master piece, and of
course $2500 for that kit -semi arf deal, then I gotta learn turnaround
too!!!! No WAY.....Dealing with the French for the plane was bad enough, now
I gotta learn turnaound too????...I am out for sure...... 

Now I am off in search of the perfect P-51 lookin'pattern
plane.............I think that that bottom air scoop makes for better Knife
Edges, increases rudder authority, slows the plane down better, increasing
smoothness and gracefulness (thus increasing scores), makes snap entrances
better, AND better throttle response (far superior to ANY electric). I
conducted these tests myself, collected data so I know I am right. I cannot
believe that the rest of you have not seen the wisdom of a P-51 pattern
plane. No wonder you find turnaround so difficult.

Gray Fowler
Principal Chemical Engineer
Composites Engineering 

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