[NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff

[Ron Van Putte]

On Feb 28, 2006, at 2:37 PM, mike mueller wrote:

>  Ed Izzo that brings back some great memories. What was his wife's  
> name.

Louise

> She was his caller and always by his side. You don't see that very  
> often anymore.

Yep.  Most female callers are never seen again after they get their  
'Mrs' degree.

Ron

>
> Dean Pappas <d.pappas at kodeos.com> wrote:
> And the late Ed Izzo competed in Pattern with a stand-way-off P-40.  
> He won with it, too.
>
> Dean Pappas
> Sr. Design Engineer
> Kodeos Communications
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- 
> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:24 PM
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff
>
> Hmmmm........ I can remember hearing about Red St. Aubin winning a  
> pattern contest in LAX with a Corsair (yes, a model of the WW2  
> airplane) --of course, I DO have a couple of years on y'all.
> Bill Glaze
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Hester
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff
>
> Your P-51 fetish is showing again =)
>
> -Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gray E Fowler
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:47 AM
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff
>
>
> I have never flown non turnaround pattern. When I first got in to  
> pattern I saw all the comments flyin' around about how turnaround  
> kills attendance. To this day I cannot figure out why the older  
> guys (which if you flew non turn around you were either very young  
> then or old now) wank so much about this change. Perhaps the  
> decline of pattern from its heyday has more to do with with other  
> RC interest than stinkin' turnaround changes. When I was young, we  
> had 3 TV channnels, and when MASH came on EVERYONE watched, unless  
> Nixon was giving us a speech, which was on all 3 channels, in that  
> case we were all screwed.....Would MASH be so popular today  
> competing with 150 other channels, INCLUDING "The Food  
> Channel????!!!!!"  I think not!  Learn how to make a quiche......or  
> MASH. As you can see this is quite a quandary.
>
> I will say that when I first investigated pattern and found out  
> everyone had $550 engines instead of my $99 two stroke-I was  
> flabergasted. I still might be.
>
> To me turnaround is the coolest and not the problem.....when does  
> this argument end? I would guess in another 10 years, because at  
> that time all that flew NON turnaround will be dead or quit due to  
> age.
>
> When I started Ed Hurt was flying Masters at age 75......He told me  
> alot but NEVE! R told me that turnaround sucked........
>
> Billion Dollar Batteries, Electric gear motors, $650 engines and  
> pristine "works of art" scare the average sport flyer (by showing/ 
> thinking they cannot do that) much more than turnaround......
>
> Scenario #56.....Sport flyer thinking about pattern......Lets see,  
> No problem with powerplants costing 5-15X of my OS.45, just won't  
> feed the kids for a week, 300 hours to build and paint a flying  
> master piece, and of course $2500 for that kit -semi arf deal, then  
> I gotta learn turnaround too!!!! No WAY.....Dealing with the French  
> for the plane was bad enough, now I gotta learn turnaound  
> too????...I am out for sure......
>
> Now I am off in search of the perfect P-51 lookin'pattern  
> plane.............I think that that bottom air scoop makes for  
> better Knife Edges, increases rudder authority, slows the plane  
> down better, increasing smoothness and gracefulness (thus  
> increasing scores), makes snap entrances better, AND better  
> throttle response (far superior to ANY electric). I conducted these  
> tests myself, collected data so I know I am right. I cannot believe  
> that the rest of you have not seen the wisdom of a P-51 pattern  
> plane. No wonder you find turnaround so difficult.
>
> Gray Fowler
> Principal Chemical Engineer
> Composites Engineering
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