[NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff
dwaynenancy
dwaynenancy at cox.net
Tue Feb 28 14:04:35 AKST 2006
Yep. Winter Springs to be exact. Dwayne
Dean Pappas wrote:
> I think that Louise is still living in the Orlando area. Ed's gone a
> good ten years, now.
> She sure is good people.
>
>
>
> Dean Pappas
> Sr. Design Engineer
> Kodeos Communications
> 111 Corporate Blvd.
> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
> (908) 222-7817 phone
> (908) 222-2392 fax
> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]*On Behalf Of
> *mike mueller
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:37 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such
> stuff
>
> Ed Izzo that brings back some great memories. What was his wife's
> name. She was his caller and always by his side. You don't see
> that very often anymore.
>
> */Dean Pappas <d.pappas at kodeos.com>/* wrote:
>
> And the late Ed Izzo competed in Pattern with a stand-way-off
> P-40. He won with it, too.
>
> Dean Pappas
> Sr. Design Engineer
> Kodeos Communications
> 111 Corporate Blvd.
> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
> (908) 222-7817 phone
> (908) 222-2392 fax
> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]*On
> Behalf Of *Bill Glaze
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2006 3:24 PM
> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or
> some such stuff
>
> Hmmmm........ I can remember hearing about Red St. Aubin
> winning a pattern contest in LAX with a Corsair (yes, a
> model of the WW2 airplane) --of course, I DO have a couple
> of years on y'all.
> Bill Glaze
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mike Hester <mailto:kerlock at comcast.net>
> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:01 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
> Cost-participation-or some such stuff
>
> Your P-51 fetish is showing again =)
>
> -Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gray E Fowler <mailto:gfowler at raytheon.com>
> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
> <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:47 AM
> *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion]
> Cost-participation-or some such stuff
>
>
> I have never flown non turnaround pattern. When I
> first got in to pattern I saw all the comments
> flyin' around about how turnaround kills
> attendance. To this day I cannot figure out why
> the older guys (which if you flew non turn around
> you were either very young then or old now) wank
> so much about this change. Perhaps the decline of
> pattern from its heyday has more to do with with
> other RC interest than stinkin' turnaround
> changes. When I was young, we had 3 TV channnels,
> and when MASH came on EVERYONE watched, unless
> Nixon was giving us a speech, which was on all 3
> channels, in that case we were all
> screwed.....Would MASH be so popular today
> competing with 150 other channels, INCLUDING "The
> Food Channel????!!!!!" I think not! Learn how to
> make a quiche......or MASH. As you can see this is
> quite a quandary.
>
> I will say that when I first investigated pattern
> and found out everyone had $550 engines instead of
> my $99 two stroke-I was flabergasted. I still
> might be.
>
> To me turnaround is the coolest and not the
> problem.....when does this argument end? I would
> guess in another 10 years, because at that time
> all that flew NON turnaround will be dead or quit
> due to age.
>
> When I started Ed Hurt was flying Masters at age
> 75......He told me alot but NEVE! R told me that
> turnaround sucked........
>
> Billion Dollar Batteries, Electric gear motors,
> $650 engines and pristine "works of art" scare the
> average sport flyer (by showing/thinking they
> cannot do that) much more than turnaround......
>
> Scenario #56.....Sport flyer thinking about
> pattern......Lets see, No problem with powerplants
> costing 5-15X of my OS.45, just won't feed the
> kids for a week, 300 hours to build and paint a
> flying master piece, and of course $2500 for that
> kit -semi arf deal, then I gotta learn turnaround
> too!!!! No WAY.....Dealing with the French for the
> plane was bad enough, now I gotta learn turnaound
> too????...I am out for sure......
>
> Now I am off in search of the perfect P-51
> lookin'pattern plane.............I think that that
> bottom air scoop makes for better Knife Edges,
> increases rudder authority, slows the plane down
> better, increasing smoothness and gracefulness
> (thus increasing scores), makes snap entrances
> better, AND better throttle response (far superior
> to ANY electric). I conducted these tests myself,
> collected data so I know I am right. I cannot
> believe that the rest of you have not seen the
> wisdom of a P-51 pattern plane. No wonder you find
> turnaround so difficult.
>
> Gray Fowler
> Principal Chemical Engineer
> Composites Engineering
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