[NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff

[Earl Haury]

Another pattern Mustang was Ralph White's (Flightglass Models) - he flew it 
in FAI pattern in the '70's and won Sport Scale at the Nats a couple of 
times.

Earl
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From: "dwaynenancy" <dwaynenancy at cox.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff


> Do you remember Ted White's El Gringo.  Mustang looking.  Dwayne
>
> Dean Pappas wrote:
>
>> Hi Gray,
>> You never saw my '90/'91 season Stand-off Mustang?
>> Dean
>>
>>
>> Dean Pappas
>> Sr. Design Engineer
>> Kodeos Communications
>> 111 Corporate Blvd.
>> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
>> (908) 222-7817 phone
>> (908) 222-2392 fax
>> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>     [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]*On Behalf Of
>>     *Gray E Fowler
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:48 AM
>>     *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
>>     *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] Cost-participation-or some such stuff
>>
>>
>>     I have never flown non turnaround pattern. When I first got in to
>>     pattern I saw all the comments flyin' around about how turnaround
>>     kills attendance. To this day I cannot figure out why the older
>>     guys (which if you flew non turn around you were either very young
>>     then or old now) wank so much about this change. Perhaps the
>>     decline of pattern from its heyday has more to do with with other
>>     RC interest than stinkin' turnaround changes. When I was young, we
>>     had 3 TV channnels, and when MASH came on EVERYONE watched, unless
>>     Nixon was giving us a speech, which was on all 3 channels, in that
>>     case we were all screwed.....Would MASH be so popular today
>>     competing with 150 other channels, INCLUDING "The Food
>>     Channel????!!!!!"  I think not!  Learn how to make a
>>     quiche......or MASH. As you can see this is quite a quandary.
>>
>>     I will say that when I first investigated pattern and found out
>>     everyone had $550 engines instead of my $99 two stroke-I was
>>     flabergasted. I still might be.
>>
>>     To me turnaround is the coolest and not the problem.....when does
>>     this argument end? I would guess in another 10 years, because at
>>     that time all that flew NON turnaround will be dead or quit due to
>>     age.
>>
>>     When I started Ed Hurt was flying Masters at age 75......He told
>>     me alot but NEVER told me that turnaround sucked........
>>
>>     Billion Dollar Batteries, Electric gear motors, $650 engines and
>>     pristine "works of art" scare the average sport flyer (by
>>     showing/thinking they cannot do that) much more than turnaround......
>>
>>     Scenario #56.....Sport flyer thinking about pattern......Lets see,
>>     No problem with powerplants costing 5-15X of my OS.45, just won't
>>     feed the kids for a week, 300 hours to build and paint a flying
>>     master piece, and of course $2500 for that kit -semi arf deal,
>>     then I gotta learn turnaround too!!!! No WAY.....Dealing with the
>>     French for the plane was bad enough, now I gotta learn turnaound
>>     too????...I am out for sure......
>>
>>     Now I am off in search of the perfect P-51 lookin'pattern
>>     plane.............I think that that bottom air scoop makes for
>>     better Knife Edges, increases rudder authority, slows the plane
>>     down better, increasing smoothness and gracefulness (thus
>>     increasing scores), makes snap entrances better, AND better
>>     throttle response (far superior to ANY electric). I conducted
>>     these tests myself, collected data so I know I am right. I cannot
>>     believe that the rest of you have not seen the wisdom of a P-51
>>     pattern plane. No wonder you find turnaround so difficult.
>>
>>     Gray Fowler
>>     Principal Chemical Engineer
>>     Composites Engineering
>>
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