[NSRCA-discussion] weather-P0-7
Karl G. Mueller
kgamueller at rogers.com
Wed Feb 15 16:17:01 AKST 2006
Tom,
Your assumptions on the maneuver #19 in P-07 are correct.
As long as the rolls are centered on each line, the two lines
can be of different length.
Karl G. Mueller
kgamueller at rogers.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Koenig, Tom
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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] weather-P0-7
The storm arrived!!! Now I'm running around all day fixing equipment and
replacing surge protection ! LOL.
Mind you , the air was sensational for flying this morning. We are not
used to thicker air here ( I think I'm at about 800 m ASL) and the Dingo
performed like a Mongrel!! I was resigned to more 'poodle' like performance
with the way the weather was-but today, it was on fire!!! It was so much
easier to fly-it was astounding. This brings me to a question:
P0-7: turnaround manoeuvre-Half horizontal hourglass.
The second leg going back up with the two half rolls (reversed). Am I
correct that this leg can be a different length than the first leg entering
the manoeuvre. I assume it can be, as it is a turn around and therefore an
altitude adjusting manoeuvre?? As long as the rolls are centred on that leg
it should be correct-no?
Just need to clarify, that's all.
My panel shop neighbour did not look pleased as we both left for work this
morning-he looked very concerned. I guess he knew the morning rush hour and
slippery roads would result in somewhat additional income for him ! I would
have expected a broad smile from him instead!!!
Tom
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Terry Brox
Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2006 3:19 PM
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I too, have my fingers crossed. Let me know.
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From: Koenig, Tom
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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] weather
Washing the car....that is what peeves me..I cant keep it clean. I go to
the field and its a mess, dust everywhere. Its especially problematic since
I'm flying every morning now. I dream about the sorts of fields some of you
chaps have in the US, paved runways or lush green strips etc etc.
Terry...the smash repair business is a lucrative one in this country. My
neighbour has a panel shop-he is doing alright thank you very much-even
without hail or rain!
Come to think of it, I think I'm the pauper in my street-I'm the only
one that works wages!!!
Thunderstorm predicted this afternoon-keeping fingers crossed!!
Tom
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Amir Neshati
Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2006 10:14 AM
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I keep washing my car and the weather seems to remain around 70 degrees,
sunny, clear & calm here in Vegas.
Amir
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John
Contreras
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:31 PM
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Yeah its really tough here in AZ, the other day we had a crosswind for
part of the day, lol
John
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From: Troy A. Newman
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Sent: 2/13/2006 10:29:20 PM
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We are at 116 days without any moisture. Not even a little dew on the
pumpkin in the morning.
Today was 80degs with winds about 5-10mph.
TN
----- Original Message -----
From: Koenig, Tom
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Direct Servo Drive
Terry,
No hail anywhere that I am aware of. To be honest...I wouldn't mind
a bit of wet weather again, I think 6 weeks ago was the last time I
witnessed any wet stuff. The flying field is all dust and dirt and
temperatures are only just becoming bearable.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Terry Brox
Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2006 2:38 PM
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Have you guys had any hail down there in Australia?
----- Original Message -----
From: Koenig, Tom
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 6:38 PM
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REAL football...is that what you fellas in the States call
it??<VBG> Crash hats, all that girlie body armour, stop start, stop
start....REAL football is played down here, Rugby Union, League and Aussie
Rules-and we drive on the RIGHT side of the road too..hahahaha <VVBG>
And just to warm a few more tempers ( since you fellas are
enjoying your blizzards at the moment)-its a nice 82 Deg F, sunny and no
wind down here!
Have fun
Tom ( in the bunker)
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Miller
Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2006 11:17 AM
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Within the 10 ten in the USA. We even drive on the correct side
of the road and play real football ( UT ) here.
Ed M.
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From: Grow Pattern
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 6:15 PM
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They have schools???
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From: Ed Miller
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:56 PM
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School was closed here in Farragut, Knox county schools today
also. I think the few flurries we had over the weekend and the TV shots of
the northeast being buried caused a "sympathy shutdown" of Knox county
schools. :)
Ed M.
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From: John Ferrell
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Direct Servo Drive
I understand and sympathize. Over hear on the East side of
the mountains there were snow flurries seen on last Thursday morning
somewhere in the county so they delayed school opening two hours...
John Ferrell
http://DixieNC.US
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Miller
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:33 PM
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Yeah, TN sucks. My property taxes are 1/3 they were in NY
and I tried but TN refuses to collect state income tax from me. Weather
sucks as I long for those January and February days of shoveling snow,
chipping ice, mind numbing cold and falling on my butt. I can drive a car
around in my house ( full scale )...... Guaranteed immortality wouldn't get
me to move back. Wait, is that a banjo I hear in the background ??? Ed M.
----- Original Message -----
From: Del K. Rykert
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 3:10 PM
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How absolutely revolting... to be flying a real 2m
pattern ship in February.. and not be in the sun belt..
Del
nsrca - 473
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From: Scott Anderson
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:31 PM
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1 inch dusting in Knoxville, TN and going to be 60f on
Tuesday.. Might just have to go fly :)
scott anderson
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From: Randy hatfield
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:18 PM
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I call it a re-use of the dining room. We had a 12
inch 'dusting' as well in DC. Black ice everywhere this morning. I am
having fun turing Balsa in to mounds of saw dust.
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: Dean Pappas
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Direct Servo Drive
That's a padded room, right? I call it the
workshop.
Dean
Dean Pappas
Sr. Design Engineer
Kodeos Communications
111 Corporate Blvd.
South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
(908) 222-7817 phone
(908) 222-2392 fax
d.pappas at kodeos.com
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Grow Pattern
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:48 PM
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Drive
Dean,
What snow?
It's only a 12" dusting.....Signed, ex Boston MA
inmate....
You should just "get a room" for yourself and
the "tuned-pipe-pundits", then talk 2-c's and pipes until the snow melts!
That will keep you all sane! :-)))) John's RV is vacant right now.....
Evl-Eric.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:39 PM
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Drive
Yeah, John!
What ever happened to the "obvious to one
skilled in the art" clause?
Maybe what is patented is the arrangement of
servo-box, or extension arm ... in any case, this falls under the heading of
re-patenting the wheel.
Granted, on a 3-D only setup, I'd hook up to
the servo this way!
signed, snow covered in Joisey
A.K.A.
Dean Pappas
Sr. Design Engineer
Kodeos Communications
111 Corporate Blvd.
South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
(908) 222-7817 phone
(908) 222-2392 fax
d.pappas at kodeos.com
-----Original Message-----
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nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of John Ferrell
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Direct Servo
Drive
If that can be worthy of a patent, the
inmates are in charge of the asylum!
John Ferrell
http://DixieNC.US
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Richards
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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Direct Servo
Drive
My feeling exactly.
Bob R.
Ed Alt <ed_alt at hotmail.com> wrote:
Never have seen it before, but I guess the
main question I have concerns the potential for loss of effective torque
transmitted to the control surface. I see that they claim it's better due
to no losses. That would be true in the sense that you don't lose that
little bit in the linkage friction etc., but if you only want, say, 25
degrees of surface throw each direction, it would appear that you would have
to limit the servo travel to 25 degrees as well. If that's true, then you
have less mechanical advantage for a given degree of movement for the
surface, since you would normally have a servo traveling about doub! le that
distance. The control surface speed would be quicker, assuming the load is
handled without any blowback or slowdown of movement due to the effectively
lower torque transmitted while moving. Maybe I'm not seeing it right, but
it looks like it might not be such a good thing to use, unless you were alr!
eady planning on having something close to a 1:1 correspondence of degrees
of servo arm movement to degrees of surface travel.
Ed
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