[NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase

Del K. Rykert drykert2 at rochester.rr.com
Sun Dec 31 06:50:08 AKST 2006


I also would support that concept if they would reduce dues to $20.00. 
Makes more sense than the current approach.

    Del

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrien L Terrenoire" <amad2terry at juno.com>
To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Cc: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase


> Ok, my 2 cents worth!!
> As president of a local club, and Treasurer for VRCS for the past 6
> years. Here is our main way of saving some $$.
> frst: Have everyone who is able, receive the newsletter via e-mail. This
> eliminates a lot of production cost, mailing costs, and prep cost.
> second: go to bi-monthly, or quarterly publication. It is obvious that
> bi-monthly will save us 50%.
> third: cut out the frills, like color covers. If members select to get
> the KF thru e-mail, then they can print it out and get color, without
> additional cost to NSRCA.
> In our club, eliminating the mailings saved us enough to stave off a dues
> increase for 4 years. In VRCS, we have been able to produce a great
> newsletter, thanks to Jim Quinn, and the dues are still the same as they
> were 12 years ago. For a little under 400 members, we charge just $20 a
> year. In the 6 years I have been treasurer we have not had to touch teh
> the savings that had been built up in the past, and we operate just on
> current dues income, with a few dollars from advertising, very few!!
> It can be done, we, as members, just have to let the administration know
> what we want. I, for one would vote for a bi-monthly, no frills
> publication, made available primarily to members via E-mail.
>
> Terry T.
>
> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 21:58:10 -0800 "Derek Koopowitz"
> <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com> writes:
>> Actually membership is up over the last couple of years but we do
>> have a lot
>> of work ahead of us - it will be challenging to all of us, not just
>> the
>> board, but for all members.  One of my goals is to increase revenue
>> with the
>> K-Factor but I need someone for the Advertising Manager position -
>> this
>> person must be passionate about this sport and must be a good
>> communicator -
>> someone that can solicit new advertising to help build it up slowly.
>>  We did
>> pick up a couple of new advertisers in 2006 - I think we can pick up
>> a
>> couple more new advertisers in the next few months.  If anyone has
>> an
>> interest in being our Ad Manager please contact me ASAP.
>>
>> Wayne, I'm sorry to hear that you won't renew your membership -
>> hopefully
>> you'll change your mind in the near future.  As to what I will do to
>> get us
>> out of this pickle?  We ALL have to do something.  This is not
>> something
>> that any one person can fix - if I could wave a magic wand, I would.
>>  We'll
>> take the necessary steps on getting our finances in order - let me
>> tell you
>> that it won't take much to see a difference.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
>> Wayne
>> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 6:17 PM
>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
>>
>> Don't worry Paul it wasn't announced in the KF either!
>>
>> So you didn't miss anything.
>>
>> I understand the need for increased dues. I also understand the need
>> for the
>> NSRCA to give us something in return for our support. Today I don't
>> see much
>> going on to PROMOTE pattern. While I wish to support pattern and
>> promote it
>> I will take my $40 and spend it on attendance at an event rather
>> than the
>> NSRCA.
>>
>> Sorry but poor management of more of our funds are not going to get
>> it done.
>>
>> 2 years ago when folks asked questions of Derek and Lamar the bank
>> account
>> was sitting on a surplus of about $12,000 or so. If I remember the
>> numbers
>> correctly. I'm going to go find the old KF that had this number in
>> it. Rusty
>> Dose tells us last month that we are down over $15,000 is dues and
>> advertising revenue. Looks to me like this has been a sinking ship
>> for some
>> time. The very fact that I received a renewal notice with the $40
>> price tag
>> on it a full week before we heard about it from the board is another
>> sign of
>> mismanagement. A 30% increase in dues just because there has not
>> been a
>> increase in many years is not the solution to our problems. Where is
>> the 30%
>> increase going to help support precision aerobatics.
>>
>> I think that with all products and services in the market place
>> today the
>> NSRCA needs to show some value to the modelers out there. If this
>> happens
>> then membership will grow. Revenue will increase. And Pattern flying
>> will
>> prosper. I feel that I and other vote with our pocket books. The
>> reason
>> advertising dollars are down, the reason dues dollars are down is
>> due
>> directly to the product supplied.
>>
>> Perhaps the NSRCA leadership is listening but instead we talk about
>> what a
>> great job has been done and how far we have come. I'm not into
>> bashing the
>> guy that just left but Derek we have seen nothing about how to get
>> us out of
>> this pickle we are in. Therefore I elect not to renew at this time.
>> I think
>> there are better places to spend our money to support Precision
>> Aerobatics.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wayne
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Brine" <pbrine at uoguelph.ca>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 3:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
>>
>>
>> > It also wasn't announced to the membership until Dec 22nd via
>> Lamar's
>> > email.
>> > Remember not everyone (ie myself ) is in a position to download
>> and read
>> > the
>> > k-factor on-line.
>> >
>> > Applying the increase to those who renewed before then is like you
>> signing
>> > on the line to buy a car and being told a week later by the dealer
>> that
>> > the
>> > price went up a $1000.
>> >
>> > Paul
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Martin X. Moleski, SJ <moleski at canisius.edu>
>> > To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> > Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 1:07 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
>> >
>> >
>> >> Anthony Abdullah wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Silly quesion:
>> >>
>> >> > After a long pattern lay off for grad school and such I am
>> returning in
>> >> > full force. Part of that included renewing my NSRCA membership.
>> When I
>> >> > downloaded and printed the form from the NSRCA website the dues
>> was
>> >> > listed as $30.00 and that is how much the check was written for
>> (just
>> >> > two days ago). Do I need to send an additional check for $10.00
>> or is
>> >> > the price increse effective Jan 1?
>> >>
>> >> There was a missed communication between Lamar and myself early
>> in
>> >> December, so I didn't hear about the change in dues until two or
>> >> three days ago.
>> >>
>> >> The law is probably on your side, if you want to take the time
>> >> to take it to court.
>> >>
>> >> It would be a huge kindness to simply send along another $10
>> check.
>> >>
>> >> I believe the forms have all been updated.
>> >>
>> >> I'm hoping to work on the Paypal front end over this vacation.
>> >> It hasn't been satisfactory for a couple of years ... my bad.
>> >>
>> >> Marty
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