[NSRCA-discussion] MID AIR COLLISIONS

[Ed Alt]

heh - we tend to aim at each other with the foamies all too often.  Sort-of 
a D1 tradition I guess.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Strickland" <richard.s at allied-callaway.com>
To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MID AIR COLLISIONS

> Fly foamies indoor a lot this winter--you learn to be more aware of
> something coming at you....
>
> RS
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Jay
> Marshall
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:49 AM
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MID AIR COLLISIONS
>
>
> I still advocate flying tracks that are inclined slightly to each other 
> (~10
> - 20 deg) rather than parallel and possible in the same plane. This way 
> the
> possibility of collision is greatly reduced. It would just require two 
> sets
> of field markers.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Woodward
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:00 AM
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MID AIR COLLISIONS
>
> Being that I was involved and lost a plane with less than 50 flights,
> I've been thinking about the mid-airs.  If anything, perhaps the extreme
> blowing -in condition had a way of compressing the box a bit.  Also, it
> would have been nice to hear a "pull-up!"  I'm not sure it was even
> foreseeable though by my caller or I.  We certainly were not flying
> formation - this was a head-on deal in the lower corner of the right
> side of the box.  What is funny is that I've flown many days with the
> Sunday-Armada reenacting Midway, and no problems.
>
> It also highlights a huge problem with a mid-level finished plane's
> availability.  There are $479 ARFs available, there are $3000+ ARF's
> available, but there are no new/credible $1000'ish ARF's available, on
> the shelf somewhere, waiting to be bought.  While our options have
> increased greatly over the last 2 years, you still need to plan ahead
> for these custom babies!!
> Thanks,
> Jim W.
>
>
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> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dean
> Pappas
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:53 AM
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>
> Even fancier Physics: if both of them are going very, very, very fast,
> and possess great energy there is a small
> (and I do mean small) probability they can occupy the same spece.
>
> Dean Pappas
> Sr. Design Engineer
> Kodeos Communications
> 111 Corporate Blvd.
> South Plainfield, N.J. 07080
> (908) 222-7817 phone
> (908) 222-2392 fax
> d.pappas at kodeos.com
>
>
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> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken
> Thompson
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:24 PM
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MID AIR COLLISIONS
>
>
> Very simple physics...two objects can not occupy the same space at the
> same
> time...;-)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MID AIR COLLISIONS
>
>
>> there's an easy answer, stay out of the same air space as the other
>> pilot...
>> lol.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jason
>> www.jasonshulman.com
>> www.shulmanaviation.com
>> www.composite-arf.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of R.
> LIPRIE
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:50 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MID AIR COLLISIONS
>>
>>
>> lolol..    I like to study and watch and determine how to avoid
> them.....
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "JShulman" <jshulman at cfl.rr.com>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MID AIR COLLISIONS
>>
>>
>>> Man Matthew... what intrigues you so much about others mid-airs?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>> www.jasonshulman.com
>>> www.shulmanaviation.com
>>> www.composite-arf.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of R.
> LIPRIE
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:42 PM
>>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MID AIR COLLISIONS
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike if you find the person who has the video please send it to me...
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "R. LIPRIE" <RLIPRIE at centurytel.net>
>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MID AIR COLLISIONS
>>>
>>>
>>>> sounds like a money burning weekend.  I just about had a mid air at
>>>> crescent city contest.  I was on a stall turn and apparently he was
> on a
>>>> vertical climb and my wheels and his wheels were about 4 or 5 inches
>>>> apart.  Very scary finally i stopped and stalled made it out alive.
>>>> Somehow me and him ended up on the same side of the field.lol.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mike Hester" <kerlock at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:38 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MID AIR COLLISIONS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> That was spectacular to say the least. Dean was cooking the box
> about
>>>>> wide
>>>>> open with the Black Magic (prototype with retracts, very fast) and
> was
>>>>> just
>>>>> pulling into a humpty at the end of the box....darn near wide
> open.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim was coming down out of a stall turn, about to power up.
>>>>>
>>>>> BOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> That was no glancing blow, that was instant obliteration. Jim's
> nomex
>>>>> Aggressor pretty much exploded into pieces and went straight down
>>>>> (right
>>>>> on
>>>>> the poles BTW! in a 25+mph crosswind). Dean's Black Magic turned
> into
>>>>> something...like a fireworks explosion. Millions of tiny sparkling
>>>>> bits,
>>>>> drifting with the wind across the road into pattern plane
>>>>> neverland.....
>>>>>
>>>>> The last time I saw a mid air that explosive was about 5-6 years
> ago
>>>>> when
>>>>> Emory Schroeter and Mike Hare hit spinner to spinner wide open over
> the
>>>>> center pole at GMA.....
>>>>>
>>>>> Lotsa broken planes, but no broken spirits! BTW somebody actually
> has a
>>>>> picture of the debris cloud still in mid air. There is actually
> video
>>>>> somewhere of the GMA mid air....just can't find the person who has
> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: <vellum2 at bellsouth.net>
>>>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>; "NSRCA
>>>>> Mailing
>>>>> List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:49 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] MID AIR COLLISIONS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason has a post on RCU from tangerine, including some mid air
>>>>>> aftermath
>>>>>> pics.  Let's just say that these light airplanes are pretty
> dramatic
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> they hit!  I've never seen a plane turn into complete confetti at
> 150
>>>>>> feet
>>>>>> above the ground before.  POOF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Genesis vs Diesel (Diesel won, but not by much)
>>>>>> Aggressor vs Black Magic V1 (All that was left of the BM was a
> lonely
>>>>>> retract in the Aggressor fuse)
>>>>>> Focus 2 RIP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Expensive weekend!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "R. LIPRIE" <RLIPRIE at centurytel.net>
>>>>>>> Date: 2006/12/11 Mon PM 06:32:37 EST
>>>>>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] MID AIR COLLISIONS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I herd that the had 2 mid air collisions and one crash at
> TANGERINE
>>>>>>> CONTEST.  IF anyone has any pics are knows the website that has
> the
>>>>>>> pics
>>>>>>> if you don't mind would you please send them too me i would like
> to
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> how the airplanes look.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matthew Liprie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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