[NSRCA-discussion] 1 1/2 snap technique

Ken Thompson mrandmrst at comcast.net
Tue Dec 5 18:24:15 AKST 2006


I suppose current rules make it easier on contestants.  If a contest doesn't offer your level, ie Sportsman, you can fly in Intermediate and move back to Sportsman at the next contest, inclusive of the Nats.

I didn't realize rules were different in '85.;-)
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  Only for the fact that I finished the contest and still had a plane (finished last I think). I would have continued in 401, but they didn't have it at the 85 Nats, so had to move up.

  Anyway, make sure not to get stuck just trying one technique for doing a snap. Try all sorts of set-ups and inputs. You'll find one that works for you.

  Regards,
  Jason
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    Guess that makes you pretty special...
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      401... the only time I flew 401 was when I was 7 years old (81 Jamesburg contest). And I don't think I was 2nd. You sure it wasn't 402?

      Regards,
      Jason
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        Jason 

        Your lack of a halo can be tracked back to that 401 contest that you came in second against some "Old Guy"-probably 40 or so. 



        Gray Fowler
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        No wonder why I can't roll my snaps and score... 
          
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        Jason
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        Keith 

        Proper execution, and thus good scoring of this manuever requires years of preparation. First you must win both 402 and 403 at the nationals hands down....no doubt about it, back to back then win Masters the followin year in the same manner. This creates the desired halo effect which will then allow you simply "roll" through this  manuever without getting a zero. 



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        I've seen many discussions on single snaps (pull elevator first, follow with rudder and ailerons, and even some say reduce ailerons and elevator as rotations begins, etc., etc.), but I've never seen any discussion specifically regarding the 1 1/2 snap. 
         
        This year's Masters pattern has the 45 degree down 1 1/2 snap. I've gotten pretty good at both the inverted and upright 45 degree single snap but this 1 1/2 snap is a different animal in that the up elevator that initiates the snap will cause the nose to drop after the last 1/2 rotation if it's left in too long. I've not flown it too many times, but the few times I've tried it I played with pulling out the elevator and putting in a little down to try and hold the nose on at 45 degree angle. 
         
        I'm curious to hear others thoughts on how to execute this 1 1/2 on the 45 degree downline and keep the 45 degree heading. 
         
        Thanks, 
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