[NSRCA-discussion] Where does center work out

[Ed Miller]

I'm willing to bet that a competitor will be down graded ( incorrectly so ) 
on this maneuver using different roll rates for the 1/2 rolls and slow roll 
??  Here is where the S&G comes in, someone can and will do this maneuver 
with a constant roll rate throughout and center it within the horizontal 
box. Someone else will center it BUT have different roll rates.  The S&G 
maneuver will score higher.  Since you have to wait till the entire maneuver 
is flown to see if it has been centered, S&G points will seep in.
Ed M.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Ramsey" <don.ramsey at cox.net>
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> The answer to the roll rate is in the maneuver description.  Roll rates 
> for
> the 2 point and the slow roll can be different.
>
> Don
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Glenn Hatfield" <randy10926 at comtekmail.com>
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>> Very good question.  Using general judging rules, one would think that
>> different roll rates in the same manever would be a down grade.  But a
>> point roll and slow roll are pretty different and fitting it in the space
>> allowed with 2 slow points and one slow full roll would be pretty hard to
>> do.
>>
>> What does the judging committee say?  It would be nice to have an answer
>> before we start running the seminars for next year.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> --- edbon85 at charter.net wrote:
>>
>> From: "Ed Miller" <edbon85 at charter.net>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Where does center work out
>> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 08:50:18 -0500
>>
>> Same here.  To fit it all in the horizontal segment, the 2 - 1/2 rolls 
>> are
>> at a higher roll rate than the slow roll and then the slow roll starts
>> before center. If I speed up the slow roll rate, it basically doesn't 
>> look
>> like a slow roll.  I guess my question is, to get the best score, does 
>> the
>> roll rate have to remain constant throughout the maneuver ??
>> Ed M.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ron Lockhart" <ronlock at comcast.net>
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>> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 8:03 AM
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>>
>>
>> I sure don't have it figured out yet-    But I'm working toward crisp 2/2
>> and starting the slow roll a bit
>> before center.  Then, working on a not toooo slow, slow roll.
>>
>> Later, Ron
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Stuart Chale
>>  To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
>>  Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:59 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Maneuver 4 Masters pattern
>>
>>
>>  At least that one has an obvious center and is a normal length center
>> maneuver.  Who decided that the of two followed by a slow roll should be
>> done on center J  I have yet to fit that in the box J
>>
>>  To those that have figured it out; what part of the sequence is coming
>> out
>> on center (besides the middle)?
>>
>>
>>
>>  Stuart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>  Jim,
>>
>>  I'm not worried about center right now, I'm just trying to get through
>> it!!! : )
>>
>>  Greg Grigsby
>>
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