[NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot

Mon Apr 3 19:29:09 AKDT 2006

One of the things I've always liked about Pattern is competing against the
best in whatever class I've ever flown. I don't want a separate category for
the "Unsponsored Loser", or a separate category for the "Older Losers" or
any category other than the class I fly. I probably won't win anymore in FAI
due to: (1) lack of talent to begin with, (2) lack of Practice, (3) being 65
years old with all the problems that brings, (4) obsolete equipment, and any
other excuse I can think of. But don't patronize me with a separate class.
I'll fly as best I can against the big boys and just have fun wherever I
place.
Please, no more whining about sponsored pilots. They have earned what they
get from their sponsors because their sponsors think it's good for business.
If you think they have an advantage, so what. Just fly better!
Dave Burton

-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Grow
Pattern
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:39 PM
To: NSRCA Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot

BTW - in my original postings I was only leading to suggesting the thought
that the winners who are not sponsored should be recognized within a class
and or given their own "highest amateur award, or something like that.

Regards,

Eric.

----- Original Message -----
From: "White, Chris" <chris at ssd.fsi.com>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot

>I wish to offend no one, but wanted to give another perspective.
>
> I'm SURE that sponsorship is an advantage....but it is still up to the
> pilot to get out there and practice with determination and the intent to
> be the best he can be.  Yeah, I wish I didn't have to risk so much money
> every time that bird goes in the air. But, sponsorship probably doesn't
> buy personal satisfaction for many.  We are all trying to be the best we
> can even if our funds or participation is limited.  We are striving for
> that perfect flight, for equipment that is reliable, for airplanes that
> keep getting better, for friendships that grow & grow. We could probably
> spend far less money and buy trophies or plaques...but the real value in
> competition is FUN....FUN....FUN.  It doesn't seem to matter where I've
> been...I've had a great time and everyone helps everyone get their
> rounds in...even if they know that pilot could beat them out of that
> round.  Never have I seen so many good people, trying so hard to become
> their personal best no matter what their interest in competition.  Some
> guys are striving to be the best pilots, best designers, best builders,
> best innovators...but mainly they are trying to see that competition
> flying stays healthy and will do their dead-level best to promote anyone
> to their best.  I haven't flown with anyone I didn't like, admire or
> respect in one way or another.  Sponsors...please keep sponsoring...may
> you sell tons of stuff and may the sport live on and prosper.  Thanks to
> anyone who encourages another...that is what makes the sport grow. I've
> been blessed to see few sour grapes....most of the guys are just glad to
> spend a weekend flying their best with friends, family and new
> acquaintances.
>
> To all the sponsored guys....thanks for your promotion, hard work, and
> for showing us your skills.  I love to watch good flying regardless of
> who's doing it, or how many advantages they may have...more power to
> you!  I was fortunate enough to spend a nats next door to Quique and his
> family.  I caught Quique at his van checking equipment, as I was doing,
> and we talked for a while.  I discovered that this great pilot loves all
> this stuff just like I do.... You top guys just keep flying pretty and
> we'll always have something to aim for....:)  Oh, and along the
> way...thanks for the show!
>
> "It's not the destination, It's the Journey"   (What makes the journey
> worthwhile?)
>
> In any case, I wish to participate to any degree that I can. Sometimes
> when I'm practicing I see something come together really well and it
> makes me feel precise..and I'm like: "Yeah baby"....that's why I like to
> fly pattern!
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Wickizer
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 12:49 PM
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
>
> How many pilots in Intermediate and Advanced have an advantage due to
> sponsorship?
>
>
>>From: "Del K. Rykert" <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com>
>>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:42:13 -0400
>>
>>Sponsorship does have negative aspects also Nat.  Well true, that the
>>majority of sponsored pilots have garnered their sponsorship through
> their
>>genuine ability this has not always been the case. Sponsorship, can
> give
>>some pilots, if all other things are equal regarding skill an
> advantage. Is
>>very similar to the argument that it is not the equipment... BUT the
> skill
>>of the pilot that is truly the difference. The truth is better
> equipment,
>>whether obtained through ones own pockets that may be deeper than
> others or
>>through sponsorship does make the workload less for the competitive
> pilot
>>so they can focus more of their energy on improving their skills.  The
>>disadvantaged always have a harder time overcoming obstacles that money
> or
>>sponsorship does allow. IMHO.
>>     The raw numbers of competitors is low enough without making a new
>>group of sponsored pilots. But it might help if sponsored pilots were
> only
>>allowed in the Masters & FAI classes if there ever was a need to
> address
>>the issue.
>>
>>                  Del
>>           nsrca - 473
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Nat Penton
>>   To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>   Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 5:29 PM
>>   Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] The Pilot
>>
>>
>>   The sponsored pilot received his sponsorship because of his skill
> and
>>dedication. He did not gain competitive advantage due to the
> sponsorship.
>>It is a priviledge and opportunity to be able to fly alongside this
> talent
>>and partake of their skills and knowledge. It is one aspect of the
> hobby
>>for which I am most appreciative.
>>
>>   There have been infrequent critizisms thru the years wanting to put
> the
>>sponsored pilot in a separate group. Maybe "sour grapes" should just
> work a
>>little harder.
>>                                                   Nat Penton
>>
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