[NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials

[John Ferrell]

Some of the intent of combining the events is to:
1- Make it affordable for the unsponsored pilot to compete in both the team 
trials and the Nats.
2- Make it affordable for the spectators to see it all in one trip.
3- Get a higher attendance level for both segments.Without the combining, 
many top rated pilots skip the Nats.
4- Provide a better judge pool for both functions.

Scheduling the evening functions remains a problem as along as the Masters 
and Intermediate/Advanced groups are following a different format.

If you eliminate the sponsors and the sponsored you don't have enough bodies 
to run either event. The CD has less opportunity to affect the outcome than 
the individual judges.

It is likely that if the parties directly affected by the combination object 
to the practice they can split off in the future. Holding the World's in the 
Southern Hemisphere prompted early Team Selection this cycle. It would be 
difficult to do it separately on this cycle.

We are all in agreement that the Team Selection and the Nats should not be 
compromised in any way.
Bringing problems and solutions to the surface will lead to the best 
possible events.


John Ferrell
http://DixieNC.US

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Grow Pattern" <pattern4u at comcast.net>
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Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials


> Earl,
>          In the last printed format for the 2006 Nationals FAI class was
> being run as follows. P-07 on Monday and Tuesday,Semi's on Wednesday 
> flying
> F-07, and then Final's on Thursday with two F-07's and two different
> unknowns. To run a team trials this would have to be changed.
>
> So I agree with Ron's concern about changing things, (someone get Ron some
> smelling salts quick!),  just for FAI team selection needs. I have seen a
> lot of that over the years. A team trials has a marked effect upon judge
> selection and the payment of the extra judges who come in for the FAI
> selection component. It already has spilled over into the social side of 
> the
> Nat's where our banquet is now on a Tuesday night so that FAI unknown
> schedules can be drawn up on the Wednesday night.
>
> It also puts a lot onto the Nat's event director and invariably the other
> classes experience some neglect. I also wonder if it wise to have the same
> guy running the Nat's and the team trials, especially when the some of the
> top FAI pilots are sponsored directly of indirectly by the same 
> individual.
>
> I would be much happier if the FAI team selection was not run by the AMA
> Nat's event director. I would also like to keep the Nat's for the majority
> who come for the participation.
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Earl Haury" <ehaury at houston.rr.com>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 5:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials
>
>
>> Ron
>>
>> There is no proposal to change the Nats format for the TS. There is an
>> additional fee for participation in the program and finals judges are
>> being
>> recruited beforehand. This excerpt from the program should cover concerns
>> about the event.
>> "Event Qualification. The US Team will be selected by the order of finish
>> in
>> F3A by U.S. pilots at the 2006 U.S. Nationals. All TSP participants will
>> have to enter the U.S. Nationals in order to be eligible to make the U.S.
>> Team."
>>
>> Earl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <vanputte at cox.net>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 2:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: "Earl Haury" <ehaury at houston.rr.com>
>>>> Date: 2006/03/31 Fri PM 10:08:33 EST
>>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] USA team trials
>>>>
>>>> The original plan was to hold the Team Selections for the '07 WC at 
>>>> next
>>>> year's Nats. However, the '07 WC are to be in April of '07 making it
>>>> necessary to move the TS to this year's Nats. If you, or anyone else, 
>>>> is
>>>> interested in details / entry forms please contact Lisa Johnson
>>>> (lisaj at modelaircraft.org), AMA Competitions Dept.
>>>
>>> My fear, which is justified based on what AMA tried to do before, is 
>>> that
>>> there will be an attempt by AMA personnel to abbreviate the Nats events
>>> in
>>> the case of bad weather, so that the Team Selection can be completed.  I
>>> believe that the best combination of Nats and F3A Team Selection is to
>>> say
>>> the the U.S. team is the top three placing U.S. citizens in F3A at the
>>> Nats.  Period.
>>>
>>> Ron Van Putte
>>>
>>
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