[NSRCA-discussion] ** Klipped ** Re: Falcon F3A batteries

George Kennie geobet at gis.net
Sat Apr 1 12:59:16 AKST 2006


That was a direct quote from Fred Marks himself !

Richard Strickland wrote:

> I don't think FMA is warm and fuzzy about a 3c rate in the airplane. 1C
> in-3C out.
>
> Richard
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:   nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]  On Behalf Of George
> Kennie
> Sent:   Friday, March 31, 2006 12:14 PM
> To:     NSRCA Mailing List
> Subject:        Re: [NSRCA-discussion] ** Klipped ** Re: Falcon F3A batteries
>
> Yeah, I've always been confused by this too. The only reason I can see to
> keep
> an eye on these babies is so that when they blow, it might be possible for
> the
> LFD to arrive in time to save the last wall of the house in case it's still
> standing. Let's face it, if your baby sitting the pak and it blows what are
> the
> options for corrective action. An extinguisher is totally useless and can
> you
> get close enough to it to throw some sand on it?
> At this point I am of the opinion that a really good ballancing charger is
> your
> best protection based on information presented at the WRAM show by FMA
> regarding
> their Kokam Paks. These guys are stating that it is now safe to charge your
> paks
> "in the airplane" and at a 3C rate and you should expect upwards of 400
> cycles.
> They are also experimenting with 10C rates which equates to all that stuff
> we
> heard of this week about the Makita stuff. The times they are achangin'
> boys!
> G.
>
> Del K. Rykert wrote:
>
> > So I take it you don't baby-sit your batteries as they are charging? I was
> > under impression most feel need to keep an eye on them while charging?
> > Color me further confused.
> >
> >                  Del
> >           nsrca - 473
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Strickland" <richard.s at allied-callaway.com>
> > To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries
> >
> > >I would put the wings on and batteries in at the car, lug it, another set
> > >of
> > > batts, and the transmitter out to the flightline, fly, remove that set,
> > > put
> > > in the second, run the first set to the car to charge, fly, remove the
> > > second set, put in the third, run the second set to the car, bitch that
> > > the
> > > first set wasn't quite done, fly, take the third set out, run to the
> car,
> > > exchange the first set for the second set, install the first again and
> > > fly,
> > > take the airplane and trans back to the car, remove wings, load and go
> > > home.
> > > Several times from the time I left work and the time I got home was
> right
> > > at
> > > 2 hours total and the field is roughly 20 mins away to and from.  4 flts
> > > in
> > > about an hour and 15 mins. with 3 sets at 1C charge rate.  5 flts would
> > > start to stretch things out.  I left the scene about the time balancing
> > > started to hit stride.  At 1.5 C you could get 5-6 in 2hours or so.  No
> > > field box, tools, fuel, starter, paper towels and Windex, extra trips to
> > > the
> > > car to get going; no clean up and hauling it all back to the car.   Of
> > > course, there were more social evenings that took more time-but if I was
> > > 'on
> > > a mission' to practice with limited time, the guys understood.  BTW, the
> > > Hackers and Master controllers did just fine temperature wise.  Things
> > > seemed so reliable in that department that I had asked Hacker how long
> b4
> > > I
> > > have to do some service on the motor and gearbox-they said to send it
> back
> > > about every 300 flts and they'd clean and regrease the gear-set, replace
> > > if
> > > needed(15.00), and the motor would run almost indefinitely.  With the
> > > exception of installing the wings, it's like flying foamies-you do the
> > > same
> > > stuff-just a little bigger.  Speaking of Chip, I noticed he processed 5
> > > sets
> > > at the Worlds'.  Man, that's livin'!   A small red Honda may be in my
> > > future....
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]  On Behalf Of J.Oddino
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:47 PM
> > > To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Falcon F3A batteries
> > >
> > > Richard, can you explain why you got so many more flights in a given
> > > amount
> > > of field time.  Less tinkering or what?  I've heard Chip make similar
> > > comments.
> > >
> > > Jim O
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Richard Strickland" <richard.s at allied-callaway.com>
> > > To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > >
> >
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