2007 Masters 404 Option A
Jim Ivey
jivey61 at bellsouth.net
Sat Oct 29 05:04:38 AKDT 2005
All
Thanks for the replies. In my confusion about the 2/4, I was thinking, if it is part of a 4 point then there must be equal, point line segments. Rolling or point manouvers end with wings level, explains it.
Thanks all
Jim Ivey
>
> From: "Earl Haury" <ehaury at houston.rr.com>
> Date: 2005/10/29 Sat AM 06:53:55 EDT
> To: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: RE: 2007 Masters 404 Option A
>
> Jim
>
> Consider that all rolls start when the wings leave horizontal and end when
> they return.
>
> The term "point roll" can be confusing as it implies rolling to a
> demonstrated point, and hence your view. Actually "hesitation roll" is a
> better description in that there are (in the case of the 2/4) two 90 degree
> roll segments defined by a hesitation, as the roll is complete as the wings
> return to level (and 2 of 4 roll segments having been performed) - no line
> needed (or allowed in Immelman type maneuvers).
>
> Of course all maneuvers require entry / exit lines, so there's a line before
> the roll begins and after the loop that's part of the maneuver (but not the
> roll pre se).
>
> Earl
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> To: <patternrules at earthlink.net>
> Cc: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:23 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: 2007 Masters 404 Option A
>
>
> > Steve
> > But you have to have a horizontal line as long as the verticle line of the
> > 2/4. I think it should go---entry line, verticle line(point), then
> > horizontal line(point), and now 1/2 loop. The points of the 2/4 should
> > be the same length.No? Not correct to call it a split S.
> >
> > Jim Ivey
> >>
> >> From: "Steven Maxwell" <patternrules at earthlink.net>
> >> Date: 2005/10/28 Fri PM 11:49:37 EDT
> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> Subject: RE: 2007 Masters 404 Option A
> >>
> >> Just my impression as a judge would get wings level and start the loop
> >> immediate would be the right approach it would still demonstrate level
> >> wings even in the loop. if it gets a straight line then the 2 points
> >> would
> >> have to be deducted.
> >> Steve Maxwell
> >>
> >>
> >> > [Original Message]
> >> > From: Jim Ivey <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> >> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >> > Date: 10/29/2005 12:17:52 AM
> >> > Subject: 2007 Masters 404 Option A
> >> >
> >> > Sure is quiet. Question??? Number 11 in 2007 404 Masters Option
> >> > A
> >> schedule states ---2/4pt roll,1/2 inside loop(split S with 2/4pt roll).
> >> There is no straight line after the roll and before the 1/2 loop in a
> >> split
> >> S. In order to demonstrate a 2/4pt before the 1/2 loop there has to be a
> >> straight line before the 1/2 loop. The phrase (split S with 2/4pt
> >> roll)does not apply correctly here.
> >> > Tell me I'm right or tell me I'm wrong. I'm easy.
> >> >
> >> > Jim Ivey
> >> >
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