2007 Masters 404 Option A

[Jim Ivey]

All
 Thanks for the replies. In my confusion about the 2/4, I was thinking, if it is part of a 4 point then there must be equal, point line segments.   Rolling or point manouvers end with wings level, explains it.
Thanks all

Jim Ivey
> 
> From: "Earl Haury" <ehaury at houston.rr.com>
> Date: 2005/10/29 Sat AM 06:53:55 EDT
> To: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: RE: 2007 Masters 404 Option A
> 
> Jim
> 
> Consider that all rolls start when the wings leave horizontal and end when 
> they return.
> 
> The term "point roll" can be confusing as it implies rolling to a 
> demonstrated point, and hence your view. Actually "hesitation roll" is a 
> better description in that there are (in the case of the 2/4) two 90 degree 
> roll segments defined by a hesitation, as the roll is complete as the wings 
> return to level (and 2 of 4 roll segments having been performed) - no line 
> needed (or allowed in Immelman type maneuvers).
> 
> Of course all maneuvers require entry / exit lines, so there's a line before 
> the roll begins and after the loop that's part of the maneuver (but not the 
> roll pre se).
> 
> Earl
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Ivey" <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> To: <patternrules at earthlink.net>
> Cc: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:23 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: 2007 Masters 404 Option A
> 
> 
> > Steve
> > But you have to have a horizontal line as long as the verticle line of the 
> > 2/4. I think it should go---entry line,  verticle line(point),   then 
> > horizontal line(point),   and now 1/2 loop. The points of the 2/4 should 
> > be the same length.No?   Not correct to call it a split S.
> >
> > Jim Ivey
> >>
> >> From: "Steven Maxwell" <patternrules at earthlink.net>
> >> Date: 2005/10/28 Fri PM 11:49:37 EDT
> >> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> >> Subject: RE: 2007 Masters 404 Option A
> >>
> >>  Just my impression as a judge would get wings level and start the loop
> >> immediate would be the right approach it would still demonstrate level
> >> wings even in the loop. if it gets a straight line then the 2 points 
> >> would
> >> have to be deducted.
> >>  Steve Maxwell
> >>
> >>
> >> > [Original Message]
> >> > From: Jim Ivey <jivey61 at bellsouth.net>
> >> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> >> > Date: 10/29/2005 12:17:52 AM
> >> > Subject: 2007 Masters 404 Option A
> >> >
> >> > Sure is quiet.   Question???    Number 11    in 2007 404 Masters Option 
> >> > A
> >> schedule  states ---2/4pt roll,1/2 inside loop(split S with 2/4pt roll).
> >> There is no straight line after the roll and before the 1/2 loop in a 
> >> split
> >> S.  In order to demonstrate a 2/4pt before the 1/2 loop there has to be a
> >> straight line before the 1/2 loop.   The phrase (split S with 2/4pt
> >> roll)does not apply correctly here.
> >> > Tell me I'm right or tell me I'm wrong. I'm easy.
> >> >
> >> > Jim Ivey
> >> >
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