Spektrum Technology

Tue Oct 25 11:04:21 AKDT 2005

Don,

That is an excellent question, but I doubt that you will receive a
qualified answer from JR or Futaba; it will be kept secret until the
units are released and ready for marketing.  Steve Helms has told me in
the past that he couldn't and wouldn't tell me anything about new
products that Futaba was working on. So I would be surprised if you
receive a firm answer.  But.....???

Bill Harden

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: Spektrum Technology

Any idea if this technology will be adopted by JR or Futaba and if so,
when.

Don

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Galligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
To: "Troy A. Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>; <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Spektrum Technology

> So technically there could be cars, boats, planes and helo's all
running 
> in
> the same vicinity with nary any problems of interference.
>
> That would be great in developing a master plan for an R/C complex
where
> several clubs could support a site and with all activities in close
> proximity.
>
> Wayne Galligan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Troy A. Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Spektrum Technology
>
>
>> Yes,
>>
>> as the TX "boots" up it selects the frequencies to use. There is no
way 
>> to
>> tell from the user standpoint what frequency you are on...Nor do you
need
>> to. The system scans and finds it frequencies to use.  Remember it
uses
> two
>> frequencies out of the list of like 160 available. IT can't pick a 
>> channel
>> already in use...and even to take it further your RX is Bound to your
>> TX...so it only listens to properly formatted data from your TX. The
>> redundancy of the dual frequencies is what I think makes this system
> bullet
>> proof.
>>
>>
>> The question came about range. I believe the dual channels has solved

>> this
>> problem as well....But I have no specifics on this at this time. I do

>> know
>> that I have flown a model further away than any pattern model would
be 
>> and
>> did not have any range issues. I set the F/S up to cut the throttle
and
>> never had so much as a blip way out and way low to the ground. Ground
to
>> ground range test with antennae fully extended on my 10X and the DSM
> system
>> was nearly identical. I don't believe range is an issue.
>>
>> It is a very very secure link. And the resolution and response time
is
>> better than PCM.
>>
>>
>> Troy
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Wayne Galligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
>> To: "Troy A. Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: Spektrum Technology
>>
>>
>> > Troy,
>> >
>> > Is this scenario possible?   Say someone is using the new tech
radio 
>> > and
>> > it
>> > happens to lock in on my frequency as it fires up.  I fire up my
radio
> and
>> > does the new radio automatically sense my radio is on and switches
or
>> > jumps
>> > to a new frequency?
>> >
>> > Wayne G.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Troy A. Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>
>> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:22 AM
>> > Subject: Spektrum Technology
>> >
>> >
>> >> Ok guys it is finally here. This weekend at the Houston(Tomball) 
>> >> SPARKS
>> >> contest I was asked a few questions about this new and exciting
> product.
>> > We
>> >> as pattern flyers are going to benefit from this.
>> >> I have had the opportunity to be flying one of these systems for
the
> last
>> >> few months.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=
SPM2460
>> >>
>> >> I have tested this system both my local flying field here in PHX
(Sun
>> >> Valley) as well as flying foamies and such in my yard and local
parks.
>> >>
>> >> The system has been 10000% glitch free. I can't find anything in
the
>> > system
>> >> that responds differently than my 10X. Response time is faster
than
> PCM,
>> > the
>> >> resolution is excellent, better than anything out there currently
for
> any
>> > of
>> >> the radios systems. There is nothing about this system that is
below
>> >> outstanding. Basically the system solves  two very important
problems
> we
>> >> have in modeling today:
>> >>
>> >> #1 No frequency control issues. There is no frequency pin needed
and
> you
>> >> would not even know which one to choose because the system picks a
>> > frequency
>> >> that is open when you turn it on. Don't get shot down again. This
> system
>> > can
>> >> operate with like 80 different TX's all at the same time and no
>> > interference
>> >> issues. This will make the frequency pin obsolete! The system
boots up
>> > about
>> >> 3-5secs and picks a frequency not being used. It then tells the RX

>> >> what
>> >> channel to listen too and you are done. You don't even know what
> channel
>> > you
>> >> are flying on and it doesn't matter either. Another TX turns and
scans
>> >> the
>> >> air and picks another frequency and uses it. Its totally user
>> >> friendly...Basically you just turn it on and its working. It has a
>> > Failsafe
>> >> safety feature than can be programmed when you "Bind" the RX to
the 
>> >> TX.
>> > This
>> >> Failsafe works just like PCM failsafe. The Binding process is how
you
>> >> tell
>> >> the RX "who's your daddy" This process takes about 20secs and from

>> >> then
>> >> on
>> >> the RX will only listen to your TX. If a buddy wants to fly it
with 
>> >> his
>> >> TX....just 20 secs later after you tell "who's the daddy" its now
>> > listening
>> >> only to that TX. We have all been at an event with the foamy
flying at
>> > night
>> >> and the call for frequency is heard from the other end of the
parking
> lot
>> > or
>> >> pits. This is never a concern again with the Spektrum System from
JR
> and
>> >> Horizon Hobby.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> #2 Model generated interference is not an issue. I have tried
using
> this
>> >> system on regular brushed electric powered models sometimes in
this
>> >> environment you can get a glitch or the likes running PPM (FM) 
>> >> systems.
>> > This
>> >> new 2.4Ghz system eliminates this problem. Its like PCM in that it
>> >> rejects
>> >> bad stuff and keeps the good stuff. From my understanding model
> generated
>> > RF
>> >> problems like brushed motors, metal to metal contact (drives FM
stuff
>> > nuts),
>> >> ignition systems, and the likes....this new 2.4ghz stuff is way
above
>> > those
>> >> model generated interference frequencies.
>> >>
>> >> I love the system. I know Horizon has spent a huge amount of time
> testing
>> >> and evaluating this system. It is a revolution in RC.
>> >>
>> >> We have been basically flying on the same types of signals since I

>> >> have
>> > been
>> >> involved in RC in 1981. The one big weakness with our 72mhz system
in
> my
>> >> mind is no matter how good your equipment is, not matter how much
you
>> >> have
>> >> invested in a model, no matter what TX you have 14MZ, 10X or the
likes
> a
>> >> shoot down can happen with a attack4 AM radio. The result of a
mistake
> in
>> >> the pits or parking lot can cost you your model. A simple mistake
by 
>> >> an
>> >> experienced or new modeler can cost any of us our models with
previous
>> >> systems.
>> >>
>> >> We have all heard of the stories about getting shot down.
>> >>
>> >> Well this system is the first step to eliminate this problem! I
can 
>> >> say
>> > its
>> >> been eliminated on this 6 channel radio system. Next step is for
big
>> > radios.
>> >> The RX's are cheap about $60. They are light about 7-8g (6channel
> RX)and
>> > the
>> >> RX has 2 different antennae. They are about 3-4" long...so no more
>> > stringing
>> >> the extra out the tail of the model. There are lots of other 
>> >> advantages
>> >> in
>> >> this new technology. All this and the same high quality stuff that
JR
>> >> produces with the 72mhz stuff.
>> >>
>> >> This radio system is priced and setup for the park flyers, but its

>> >> only
> a
>> >> matter of time and we all will be benefiting from this stuff.
Besides
> as
>> >> said above making this system available for a good price to the
> everyday
>> >> modeler where it is needed is the first step to really change the
way
> we
>> > fly
>> >> our models.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If you guys have any questions I would be happy to answer them. My
>> >> experience with the system has been absolutely flawless and I know
> others
>> >> have had the same. This stuff is ready for prime time and its
going
>> >> change
>> >> things in a huge way.
>> >>
>> >> Troy Newman
>> >> Team JR
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