Spektrum Technology

Tue Oct 25 10:54:29 AKDT 2005

Any idea if this technology will be adopted by JR or Futaba and if so, when.

Don

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Galligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
To: "Troy A. Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>; <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Spektrum Technology

> So technically there could be cars, boats, planes and helo's all running 
> in
> the same vicinity with nary any problems of interference.
>
> That would be great in developing a master plan for an R/C complex where
> several clubs could support a site and with all activities in close
> proximity.
>
> Wayne Galligan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Troy A. Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>
> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Spektrum Technology
>
>
>> Yes,
>>
>> as the TX "boots" up it selects the frequencies to use. There is no way 
>> to
>> tell from the user standpoint what frequency you are on...Nor do you need
>> to. The system scans and finds it frequencies to use.  Remember it uses
> two
>> frequencies out of the list of like 160 available. IT can't pick a 
>> channel
>> already in use...and even to take it further your RX is Bound to your
>> TX...so it only listens to properly formatted data from your TX. The
>> redundancy of the dual frequencies is what I think makes this system
> bullet
>> proof.
>>
>>
>> The question came about range. I believe the dual channels has solved 
>> this
>> problem as well....But I have no specifics on this at this time. I do 
>> know
>> that I have flown a model further away than any pattern model would be 
>> and
>> did not have any range issues. I set the F/S up to cut the throttle and
>> never had so much as a blip way out and way low to the ground. Ground to
>> ground range test with antennae fully extended on my 10X and the DSM
> system
>> was nearly identical. I don't believe range is an issue.
>>
>> It is a very very secure link. And the resolution and response time is
>> better than PCM.
>>
>>
>> Troy
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Wayne Galligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
>> To: "Troy A. Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 7:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: Spektrum Technology
>>
>>
>> > Troy,
>> >
>> > Is this scenario possible?   Say someone is using the new tech radio 
>> > and
>> > it
>> > happens to lock in on my frequency as it fires up.  I fire up my radio
> and
>> > does the new radio automatically sense my radio is on and switches or
>> > jumps
>> > to a new frequency?
>> >
>> > Wayne G.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Troy A. Newman" <troy_newman at msn.com>
>> > To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:22 AM
>> > Subject: Spektrum Technology
>> >
>> >
>> >> Ok guys it is finally here. This weekend at the Houston(Tomball) 
>> >> SPARKS
>> >> contest I was asked a few questions about this new and exciting
> product.
>> > We
>> >> as pattern flyers are going to benefit from this.
>> >> I have had the opportunity to be flying one of these systems for the
> last
>> >> few months.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
> http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPM2460
>> >>
>> >> I have tested this system both my local flying field here in PHX (Sun
>> >> Valley) as well as flying foamies and such in my yard and local parks.
>> >>
>> >> The system has been 10000% glitch free. I can't find anything in the
>> > system
>> >> that responds differently than my 10X. Response time is faster than
> PCM,
>> > the
>> >> resolution is excellent, better than anything out there currently for
> any
>> > of
>> >> the radios systems. There is nothing about this system that is below
>> >> outstanding. Basically the system solves  two very important problems
> we
>> >> have in modeling today:
>> >>
>> >> #1 No frequency control issues. There is no frequency pin needed and
> you
>> >> would not even know which one to choose because the system picks a
>> > frequency
>> >> that is open when you turn it on. Don't get shot down again. This
> system
>> > can
>> >> operate with like 80 different TX's all at the same time and no
>> > interference
>> >> issues. This will make the frequency pin obsolete! The system boots up
>> > about
>> >> 3-5secs and picks a frequency not being used. It then tells the RX 
>> >> what
>> >> channel to listen too and you are done. You don't even know what
> channel
>> > you
>> >> are flying on and it doesn't matter either. Another TX turns and scans
>> >> the
>> >> air and picks another frequency and uses it. Its totally user
>> >> friendly...Basically you just turn it on and its working. It has a
>> > Failsafe
>> >> safety feature than can be programmed when you "Bind" the RX to the 
>> >> TX.
>> > This
>> >> Failsafe works just like PCM failsafe. The Binding process is how you
>> >> tell
>> >> the RX "who's your daddy" This process takes about 20secs and from 
>> >> then
>> >> on
>> >> the RX will only listen to your TX. If a buddy wants to fly it with 
>> >> his
>> >> TX....just 20 secs later after you tell "who's the daddy" its now
>> > listening
>> >> only to that TX. We have all been at an event with the foamy flying at
>> > night
>> >> and the call for frequency is heard from the other end of the parking
> lot
>> > or
>> >> pits. This is never a concern again with the Spektrum System from JR
> and
>> >> Horizon Hobby.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> #2 Model generated interference is not an issue. I have tried using
> this
>> >> system on regular brushed electric powered models sometimes in this
>> >> environment you can get a glitch or the likes running PPM (FM) 
>> >> systems.
>> > This
>> >> new 2.4Ghz system eliminates this problem. Its like PCM in that it
>> >> rejects
>> >> bad stuff and keeps the good stuff. From my understanding model
> generated
>> > RF
>> >> problems like brushed motors, metal to metal contact (drives FM stuff
>> > nuts),
>> >> ignition systems, and the likes....this new 2.4ghz stuff is way above
>> > those
>> >> model generated interference frequencies.
>> >>
>> >> I love the system. I know Horizon has spent a huge amount of time
> testing
>> >> and evaluating this system. It is a revolution in RC.
>> >>
>> >> We have been basically flying on the same types of signals since I 
>> >> have
>> > been
>> >> involved in RC in 1981. The one big weakness with our 72mhz system in
> my
>> >> mind is no matter how good your equipment is, not matter how much you
>> >> have
>> >> invested in a model, no matter what TX you have 14MZ, 10X or the likes
> a
>> >> shoot down can happen with a attack4 AM radio. The result of a mistake
> in
>> >> the pits or parking lot can cost you your model. A simple mistake by 
>> >> an
>> >> experienced or new modeler can cost any of us our models with previous
>> >> systems.
>> >>
>> >> We have all heard of the stories about getting shot down.
>> >>
>> >> Well this system is the first step to eliminate this problem! I can 
>> >> say
>> > its
>> >> been eliminated on this 6 channel radio system. Next step is for big
>> > radios.
>> >> The RX's are cheap about $60. They are light about 7-8g (6channel
> RX)and
>> > the
>> >> RX has 2 different antennae. They are about 3-4" long...so no more
>> > stringing
>> >> the extra out the tail of the model. There are lots of other 
>> >> advantages
>> >> in
>> >> this new technology. All this and the same high quality stuff that JR
>> >> produces with the 72mhz stuff.
>> >>
>> >> This radio system is priced and setup for the park flyers, but its 
>> >> only
> a
>> >> matter of time and we all will be benefiting from this stuff. Besides
> as
>> >> said above making this system available for a good price to the
> everyday
>> >> modeler where it is needed is the first step to really change the way
> we
>> > fly
>> >> our models.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If you guys have any questions I would be happy to answer them. My
>> >> experience with the system has been absolutely flawless and I know
> others
>> >> have had the same. This stuff is ready for prime time and its going
>> >> change
>> >> things in a huge way.
>> >>
>> >> Troy Newman
>> >> Team JR
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