Growing pattern

Fri Nov 18 04:58:49 AKST 2005

I assume this has been discussed but what is the thought behind making 
K-Factor available to anyone online?

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Hochhalter" <chochhalter at direcway.com>
To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:26 AM
Subject: RE: Growing pattern

> Ed, you are right on.  I think there are tons of small seemingly
> insignificant times when we could expose people to pattern and the joy
> in learning the skills needed to fly it.  Notice I did not say compete.
> There are those out there and I fully understand this who don't want
> their hobby to be a means of competition so I try to get them to just
> learn to fly the maneuvers to gain the feel for precision in their
> flying.
>
> I too monitor RCU and in basic help questions I try to respond but I am
> fairly new to pattern, 3rd year but still learning equipment and yes, I
> am developing some strong opinions about setups.  Who would have thought
> that?
>
> As for what I can do, I wouldn't mind being the accumulator of info.
> Someone sent me an email and the question was asked... is this for
> technical help or to recruit.  I would like to see the video as a
> recruiting tool.
>
> How many hobby shops do you see with vcrs and dvd players now?
>
> I think we should give this a try.  If you have any inflight video that
> would be great. We could even post on the NSRCA website downloadable
> planes for G2 sim and the Aerofly Pro sim??  Just a thought.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Chuck Hochhalter
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discussion-request at nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request at nsrca.org]
> On Behalf Of Ed Alt
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:19 AM
> To: discussion at nsrca.org
> Subject: RE: Growing pattern
>
> So Chuck, what do you plan on doing after this email post of yours?  I'm
>
> away on business travel this week and only have a few minutes a day to
> monitor the list and have been patiently watching for something more to
> pop
> up regarding this topic, so thanks for that.  I feel strongly about the
> need
> to do several positive things to grow Pattern.  I have some definite
> ideas
> and suggestions for our D1 VP to consider, as well as the rest of the
> NSRCA
> leadership.  For example, designate a small team per region to monitor
> forums such as RCU to see who is asking aerobatics related questions
> that
> may deserve answers from the Pattern community.
>
> I try to do this in both the Pattern and IMAC forums.  Every week or two
> on
> average there is someone asking a question or posting a response in the
> IMAC
> forum who just might be a real Pattern candidate, if only they were a
> little
> better informed.  So I try to inform them with what I have learned so
> far.
> It's usually very basic stuff too.  Guys are always asking things like
> "Gee,
> I  still have this (fill in the blanks) 70 inch wingspan thing" that
> fits
> into what could be flown in Pattern Sportsman or IMAC Basic.  The post
> always contains basic bio info such as where they are from, so I go to
> Mapquest and then to the D1 website and give them an answer which
> includes
> things like what contests there are in D1 that they can reach out and
> touch
> easily.  I also tell them something about the IMAC contests that still
> exist
> (yes, they are on the DECLINE in the NE as Pattern is simultaneously
> GROWING
> in D1).  Everything I give them is 100% factual based on what I know
> about
> IMAC history in my region (I used to be the IMAC NE Regional Director)
> and
> is based on the last contest season for both IMAC and Pattern as a
> reasonable point of reference.
>
> Chuck, we aren't likely to get more than a handful of responses on the
> list
> that aren't meant to tickle the funny bone and make fun of the topic.
> I'm a
> little disappointed too.  So I suggest that you and the other few who
> might
> have a similar interest just grab your district VP by the collarbone and
>
> yank.  Get your ideas directly into their ear and insist on active
> participation and results.  I think that our district VP is of a similar
>
> mindset and there probably isn't going to be much to block progress with
> him
> by brainstorming and taking initiative, other than the normal pressures
> we
> all have in our daily lives.  Put some pressure on your leadership to
> actually do something if they aren't already.  That's where delegation
> of
> responsibility comes in if they are too busy to do it all themselves,
> which
> is totally understandable.  Inaction, however, isn't forgiveable..  If
> you
> really care about this and think it's a real problem, then please do
> more
> than simply complain to this email list, because it will take more than
> that
> for real results.
>
> Regards,
> Ed
>
>
>
>
>>From: Chuck Hochhalter <chochhalter at direcway.com>
>>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>Subject: Growing pattern
>>Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:34:47 -0600
>>
>>Well, it appears after a flurry of messages, lots of discussion,
>>realizing a problem..
>>
>>
>>Again.. there has not been ANYTHING done to try and come up with a
>>slight game plan to help pattern.
>>
>>IT WILL DIE!
>>
>>This really pisses me off that so many people can get on the list, say
>>what all the problems with pattern, the NSRCA, the AMA and other
> members
>>and don't do crap about trying to be part of the solution or contribute
>>more than just their opinions.
>>
>>The same thing happened with the "vote" on the list response method
> (btw
>>thanks for fixing it imo).  There was a flurry of opinions then
> nothing.
>>(not taking a shot at the moderator, I appreciate your hard work) but
>>then there was silence till one lone person mentioned it, then another
>>flurry.
>>
>>Didn't I hear something about the NATS possibly traveling again?  Wow ,
>>what  a worthwhile topic for people to be involved in as this would be
> a
>>great way to spread pattern and expose it to others rather than just
>>bringing the pattern community to one "overexposed" so to speak spot.
>>
>>How about the idea to do a combined event with IMAC, this would
> possibly
>>convert or "cross-train" some IMAC pilots?
>>
>>I just don't see why it seems the only good that comes from this list
> is
>>when people have equipment needs.. what about our sanctioning body and
>>our sport.
>>
>>Sorry to ramble but it just doesn't make any sense. Do we not have the
>>organization to address these issues?  What is the purpose of the NSRCA
>>then?
>>
>>
>>Section 2 - Purpose of the Society
>>a. Act as a focal point for rules development and progression. Gather
>>intelligence from the AMA precision aerobatics community to provide the
>>basis for AMA rules change proposals
>>b. Promote precision aerobatics in the general R/C community by
>>providing leadership in all of the objectives of the society.  .
>>c. Enhance model precision aerobatics as a recognized sport.
>>d. Develop and provide high standards in judging for competitions and
>>provide qualifications and achievement recognition for judges.
>>
>>Anyone notice E.  what is being done to accomplish this and the other
>>purposes of our "society"?
>>
>>
>>Chuck Hochhalter
>>
>>I skipped the flame suit and went straight for a bunker.
>>
>
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