What constitutes an FAI flyer.

[Keith Black]

As to FAI flying the F pattern on Sundays, from a spectators point I for one would love it. At Mike Harrison's contest he would have FAI fly finals in the last round on Sunday and it always drew a crowd of lower class spectators. Rather than everyone packing up and getting ready to go during the last round, as usual, when finals were being flown everyone would be lined up in a long row watching intently.  If a pilot feels really uncomfortable I've seen contest in D6 where they were allowed to just fly the P pattern. I'm not sure how the scoring would work, but lets face it, clearly you have to admit that those who can fly the finals pattern should finish in front of those who can't. In our "politically correct" environment some may take offense to that, but logically I don't see how anyone can deny that it's true.

Keith Black
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Earl Haury 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org 
  Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 9:50 AM
  Subject: Re: What constitutes an FAI flyer.


  Eric raises points that need discussion (and they're getting it). 

  We're fortunate to have a large group of F3A competitors in Dist 6, but have no consensus regarding flying the F sequence. Each individual's preference is based mostly on time available for practice and their goals. Folks pursuing careers have barely enough time to be proficient with one sequence at the P or Masters level. Folks with the Nats finals as a goal want to gain competition experience with F. Which way to go comes up at most contests in D6 and it can go either way in a vote. We have even flown "pilot's choice" (more work for scoring) with varying ways to combine P & F results to a common round score.

  There's more incentive to fly both P & F with the new Nats format. Given our competitive nature, I suspect more will work with the F sequence (rather than plan on 4 Nats rounds of P - or staying home) and want to "test" it in front of local judges. I also agree that the additional couple of rounds of P on the second day of a local meet are anti-climactic - hardly worth the effort / expense.

  The F sequences are a big step and do take time to master, but the difficulty level will cause one to become a much better pilot. They are part of the F3A game and are now more a part of the Nats. Our Masters class is well suited in challenge and competition for those without the time or interest in pursuing a program as demanding as F3A.

  The F3A unknowns is another can of worms in many folks view. The method of choosing maneuvers (by the pilots) is cumbersome at best. Something similar to the IMAC program makes more sense (maybe "borrow" IMAC unknowns for local meets?) Before anyone blows a gasket - this isn't a call to include unknowns in local meets. But it might be fun to add as an extra attraction after the event is complete (usually early afternoon) for those that wish to stick around and fly.

  Then there are the judging concerns. A certified judge with some experience should be able to handle any sequence - one maneuver at a time. There's nothing wrong with having a judge's "caller", as long as the judges are as far behind the pilot as recommended (7 - 10 meters), and is almost mandatory for unknowns.

  Concerns really revolve around staying within one's "comfort level" or reaching out for a challenge with a chance of improvement - be it a pilot or a judge.

  Earl





    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Grow Pattern 
    To: discussion at nsrca.org 
    Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:46 PM
    Subject: What constitutes an FAI flyer.


    This question has been going around in my mind since they came up with P-01 and F-01 and FAI wrote it up so that we, the USA, only fly the Finals at the Nat's or team trials.

    In the (my) old days they had schedules A,B, C etc right up to E. The A-schedule  was flown for two years with the new B-schedule as the finals schedule. Then the B was flown for two years with the C as the finals schedule and so on.

    Nowadays MOST FAI pilots really only fly the preliminary schedules. Next year it will by P-07. If most of the FAI pilots only compete with a P-schedule then I would submit that there is not much difference between an FAI pilot and a Masters pilot. Unless they make it into a Nat's or Team trials final (or semi final maybe).

    So maybe we are only being typically liberal and just spinning our wheels with a 406 class or perhaps I have been ignoring the obvious for years and I should accept that the P-series should be our Masters series.

    If not then maybe we should start running F-schedules on Sundays for FAI pilots flying AMA 406 at local contests.

    Lets face it you either are an FAI pilot or you are not. Just flying P-07 next year is like being half an FAI pilot!!!!. 

    Looking to create a debate and hear what you think. Don't really want to upset the middle order of FAI pilots or create a fight, but definitively wanting to be a shade contentious.

    Regards.

    Eric.
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