What constitutes an FAI flyer.

[Steven Maxwell]

Your quote   "Lets face it you either are an FAI pilot or you are not. Just flying P-07 next year is like being half an FAI pilot!!!!. " seems you was insulting, I'd guess 2/3 of the FAI pilots, not very politically correct if you ask me.
 Your one that is in a high office and should think of other's feelings, for example you could have taken a poll instead of telling people they are half a pilot.
 Way to much said at this time, Discussion complete.
 Steve Maxwell


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Grow Pattern 
To: patternrules at earthlink.net;discussion at nsrca.org
Sent: 11/11/2005 8:22:28 AM 
Subject: Re: What constitutes an FAI flyer.


Steve,
            I wanted other opinions on the subject matter that I raised with the expressed purpose of broadening my own thinking. 
To be personally offensive and express your opinion about me misses the point of the question and the higher purpose of having a discussion list, Really Steve, throwing insults at me is not appropriate for a person of your standing.

Eric.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Steven Maxwell 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:24 AM
Subject: RE: What constitutes an FAI flyer.


 Instead of trying to discourage people from flying FAI you should trying to encourage it , all local contest that I have seen have many more Masters flyers than FAI, very unbalanced.
 If your intent was to make some of us feel bad about flying FAI congratulations you have succeeded. 
 Hasn't it been voted on many times that the masters want there own schedule not the P pattern.
 You stated that most FAI pilots only fly P , then in your next sentence you say then we're not FAI if we don't fly both.
If you think this is how you GROW PATTERN  you are really missing the boat.
Your arrogance is appalling.
 Steve Maxwell

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Grow Pattern 
To: discussion at nsrca.org
Sent: 11/11/2005 2:24:58 AM 
Subject: What constitutes an FAI flyer.


This question has been going around in my mind since they came up with P-01 and F-01 and FAI wrote it up so that we, the USA, only fly the Finals at the Nat's or team trials.

In the (my) old days they had schedules A,B, C etc right up to E. The A-schedule  was flown for two years with the new B-schedule as the finals schedule. Then the B was flown for two years with the C as the finals schedule and so on.

Nowadays MOST FAI pilots really only fly the preliminary schedules. Next year it will by P-07. If most of the FAI pilots only compete with a P-schedule then I would submit that there is not much difference between an FAI pilot and a Masters pilot. Unless they make it into a Nat's or Team trials final (or semi final maybe).

So maybe we are only being typically liberal and just spinning our wheels with a 406 class or perhaps I have been ignoring the obvious for years and I should accept that the P-series should be our Masters series.

If not then maybe we should start running F-schedules on Sundays for FAI pilots flying AMA 406 at local contests.

Lets face it you either are an FAI pilot or you are not. Just flying P-07 next year is like being half an FAI pilot!!!!. 

Looking to create a debate and hear what you think. Don't really want to upset the middle order of FAI pilots or create a fight, but definitively wanting to be a shade contentious.

Regards.

Eric.
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