Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"

[Bill Glaze]

Jim:
It seems to me it got confusing when they blurred the line between AMA 
classes, and FAI.  Mixing oil and water, so to speak.  Now everybody is 
floundering, trying to get a satisfactory compromise for something  that 
came out of a fix, for something that wasn't broken to begin with.  Or 
so I see it.

Bill Glaze

Jim Ivey wrote:

>Larry
> I don't see what is wrong or needs to be changed from the old way of ---- calling take-off complete at the altitude of 6 ft or 2 meters. Or calling landing beginning at  6ft or 2 meters. Why confuse everybody with something to do between takeoff complete and entry to the box and the exit box call and landing. It is the FAI procedure that requires the takeoff sequence.. We don't need a sequence.It wastes time and gives the judges more work,when it has no function. 
>It is simple, takeoff complete at 2 meters or 6ft and enter the box.  Exit box and landing beginning at 2 meters or 6ft.
>I don't understand how this got so confusing when it was so simple.
>
>Jim Ivey
>  
>
>>From: "Larry Diamond" <lld613 at psci.net>
>>Date: 2005/05/22 Sun PM 05:57:06 EDT
>>To: "NSRCA" <discussion at nsrca.org>
>>Subject: Take Off & Landing "Reality of a Contest"
>>
>>I know there has been much discussion on this, but after CDing a contest
>>this weekend, I believe there needs to be a clear understanding of what is
>>expected in two areas.
>>
>>1)	When to call "Take-Off complete / Landing commencing". When does it
>>need to be called? After exiting the Box for the last maneuver for Landing.
>>Prior to entering the box for the trim pass on Take-Off. This is what makes
>>sense to me from CDing a contest.
>>
>>2)	Is a Dead-Stick Landing a "Zero Landing"? At the beginning of our
>>contest I stated that we would not zero TO / L for calling. So we scored all
>>landings. However, if a dead-stick prevents completing the prescribed
>>maneuver, then a zero is really the most likely result at the NATS. I don't
>>believe this was intended.
>>
>>The Judging committee should really jump on this and get clarification out
>>as quickly as possible for the "Official Judge Ruling" People are trying to
>>practice this and although seemingly easy on paper, the execution of calling
>>and judging properly does get a bit confusing...We need to make sure
>>everyone is practicing this correctly before the NATS or it will be a
>>potential area of concern for the CD's...
>>
>>Larry Diamond
>>NSRCA 3083
>>
>>
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>>
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