[SPAM] RE: calling complete for new takeoff

[Mark Hunt]

Vincente,

Sounds correct to me...and that is how I flew it (402) at our first D6 contest...I chose to exit the box, perform a 180° turn and land.  I tried the 360° in a practice flight and just didn't like the idea of possibly flying into other air traffic.

Flying as stated above was the only way I could ensure that someone else's "common sense" and/or "spirit" (in the judges chair) would not induce a "0" on my scoresheet.

IMO, I think that another touchy part of the whole subject is the fact that some of us less experienced judges must now comtemplate what constitutes a zero landing or takeoff score.  Such as:  If during the 180° turn to final, the pilot corrects heading by having to level the wings for a split second, is that a zero?  A 180° turn can be defined by a constant radius and bank angle, correct?  How constant must that be?  This could apply as well for the turns in the takeoff sequence.  I'm not one to eagerly hand out 0's....I would need to see the plane nearly upside down or behind the flight line to do so.  I just want bring to light that this needs to be discussed at judging seminars if the rule is to be clarified and flown to the letter.

Maybe the "intent" and "spirit" of the rule will eventually end up written as such, and some of us will more easily embrace the rule.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: vicenterc at comcast.net 
  To: discussion at nsrca.org ; discussion at nsrca.org 
  Cc: Vicente Bortone ; Lewis, Richard 
  Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 5:47 PM
  Subject: [SPAM] RE: calling complete for new takeoff


  I am reading the landing sequence on page 7 of the NSRCA Judging program and certification training.  It appears that in any class you can NOT do any maneuvers that is not described in the landing sequence.  The  first downgrade is: "Model does not follow landing sequence, zero (0)".  My interpretation after reading is that the landing sequence does not allows for any other turn around maneuver.  For intermediate allows for optional 360 degree turn.  If we finish down wind you could do a 360 and then 180 to land. It appears correct after drwaing a picture in a piece of paper.  Of course the 360 turn should be away from the pits. 

  However, yesterday we were doing a judge calibration training for intermediate.  The pilot did a turn around maneuver and two 180 degrees to land.  One of the judges gave a zero.  After some discussion all decided that was that was not a zero.  However, I think the judge was correct since the plane did not follow the landing sequence.  Clearly, the pilot has the option to do one 180 degree turn to land in this case.  In conclusion, looks like the only judge that gave a zero was correct.  We were lucky since this was a practice section.  

  My interpretation:  It appears that that if we don't know how to perform 90, 180, 270 and 360 degree turns you could earn a zero in landing or take off.  90, 180 and 270 degree turns allowed in take of sequence only (see combinations in the rule book).  Please notice that in the take off sequence allows one turn around maneuver as pilot option.  Landing allows 2-180 degree turns for all classes but intermediate.  In intermediate allows one 180 degree turn and one optional 360 degree turn (pilot option).  It appears clear to me now.  Am I right?

  Vince Bortone
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