[SPAM] Re: calling complete for new takeoff/Landing

[ronlock at comcast.net]

Some good points are made below.

When and if the opportunity comes to mess with the verbage, lets see if we can find a way to remove the current process which requires continued judge attentition to the take off and landing sequences.  

Let the judges have those few minutes to extend the break from previous pilot exiting the box, to next pilot entering.  A bit longer break may pay dividends in improved judging of the "judged" maneuvers.

Later, Ron Lockhart
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The spirit of the new rule is to get us to take-off, execute a positioning procedure before we enter the box. WITHOUT goofing around. Similarly for landings.

The English is off a little but common sense should prevail especially as the season wears on. Just remember that idea was to save time during a contest and then it should work.

Having judged the FAI  procedures I can tell you that it is a pain watching a plane for all of the flight. C'est la vie!

Regards,

Eric.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Charlie Rock 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: calling complete for new takeoff


I agree what was broken with the way of years past...Nothing that I have seen..I can not wait for the my first contest and hear a zero called for a takeoff that was perfectly good last year and now is a zero for no wings level or some such..Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Grow Pattern 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: calling complete for new takeoff


The FAI system is a take-off procedure and landing procedure. They also use a time-to-do-the-schedule system. They changed over to the 0  or 10 system to prevent hot-dogging, time-wasting and maneuver practicing during a contest.

Did we have that problem? What was broken??

Eric.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Don Ramsey 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:10 AM
Subject: calling complete for new takeoff


The simple answer is call the takeoff complete when it is complete and that is when the turnaround is done just before the call for "entering the box."  Call the landing when it begins and that is just after the last maneuver in the sequence or after the plane is "out of the box" at the end of the sequence.  You could call "exit the box, landing sequence".  The landing is complete after the model has rolled 10 meters and is below flying speed.  The question is, what is the downgrade if the calls are not made?  The only downgrade is 10 points resulting is zero if this was the intent of the regs (I'm almost certain this was not intended).  There are areas of the new rules that seem to leave some area for wiggle here so I'll have something official on this soon.

Don 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Steven Maxwell 
To: discussion at nsrca.org 
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: calling complete for new takeoff


The main question came from a new sportsman pilot that will be atending his first contest next weekend, he helped scribe last year at the D4 D5 shootout and knows how it was done last year, it's a real simple question and theres not an answer to it yet.
 When does he call complete for takeoff?
 When does he call start for the landing? 

 Steve Maxwell 
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