calling complete for new takeoff

Ron Van Putte vanputte at cox.net
Mon May 16 12:11:53 AKDT 2005


On May 16, 2005, at 2:19 PM, <rcaerobob at cox.net> wrote:

> One issue today is a shortage of those with enough time in the game to 
> understand and have experienced the "history".  Those who fail to 
> learn from history, risk repeating it.  And we are.
>
> The issue is that the AMA Rules process gives equal weight to any 
> submission, if legal, and irrespective of its' author or source.
>
> The Contest Board has to try to navigate through that jungle.
>
> Sometime read the OTHER SIGS proposals at rules time, and how many 
> "independent" versions of VERY similar proposals their Contest BOards 
> have to try to work through.
>
> The intent was VERY simple, and it needed doing (I started a thread 
> over on RCU to explain at least MY rationale for "WHY") in my opinion. 
>  I know many don't agree;  maybe they fly in these wonderful, sunny, 
> fair-wind contests where they are NEVER hung up by the delays the old 
> landing rules caused, or nearly creamed by someone paranoid of varying 
> takeoff track in a crosswind because of fear of losing points.
>
> This ain't Kansas, Toto.  The zero or ten landing takeoff CAN speed up 
> contests, save airplanes, and permit less wasted time in meetings, 
> seminars, CD-debates, and appealed scores.
>
> Maybe we just all haven't figured that out yet.


Yeah!  What he said.

Ron Van Putte

>>
>> From: "John Ferrell" <johnferrell at earthlink.net>
>> Date: 2005/05/16 Mon PM 12:30:34 EDT
>> To: <discussion at nsrca.org>
>> Subject: Re: calling complete for new takeoff
>>
>> I often wonder if the Contest board considers our efforts as threats 
>> to their position?
>>
>> Clearly, it is their turf and their votes have priority over ours. 
>> Cultivating an adversarial relationship is not productive. As I 
>> recall the NSRCA Rules survey was developed to assist the Contest 
>> Board, not to threaten it.
>>
>> I would like to know if the Contest Board would prefer we do things 
>> differently or may be not at all.
>> How might I get an answer to that question without becoming a 
>> lightning rod?
>>
>> If we are viewed as a problem rather than a piece of the solution, 
>> there are several of us could better use our time.
>>
>> John Ferrell
>> http://DixieNC.US
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Grow Pattern
>>   To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>   Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:07 AM
>>   Subject: Re: calling complete for new takeoff
>>
>>
>>   Keith,
>>            I wish I had said this the way you did.
>>
>>   I am still astonished that the Chairman of the AMA contest board 
>> submitted his own proposals to his own board. They all passed BTW.  I 
>> think that the AMA is remiss in not producing much better guidelines 
>> for contest boards.
>>
>>   As regards AMA contest board selection. It is done by the AMA 
>> district VP.  It might be more effective if we were administratively 
>> aligned with the AMA districts, but in the case of John Fuqua, Tony 
>> is his AMA DVP. so that's probably a lost cause.
>>
>>   Lets just face the facts, if you don't live in Florida you don't 
>> know diddly about pattern... Just move on ;-)
>>
>>
>>   Eric.
>>
>>
>
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